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Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think +</I>>><i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's your point of view. Every programmer will have its own POV. +</I>><i> Thus this is a void argument. +</I> +sure, but I do think that people learing programming langages, notably +at school/university, first learn C-based langages ( C, C++, java, +PHP, .Net ), and so are more used to theses kinds of structures/syntax + +><i> I think an higher language makes the entry barrier smaller for new programmers: +</I>><i> - real algorithms are not in hidden/drown malloc/free spagetti +</I>><i> - no memory bugs +</I>><i> - no security issues b/c of poorly thinked/coded memory management +</I> +I did talk about C-like syntax langages. For example mono, php, java, python. +Ypu know having things like : if-then-else + +><i> What's more, with ugtk2 & mygtk2 it's easy to express a complex GUI +</I>><i> with a compact +</I>><i> & powerfull dialect which would need 10 times more code to do in C +</I> +I did look several times at ugtk2/mygtk2 : +- new dialect to learn +- issues in the predefined widgets +- syntax ( notably arg list ) hard to grasp, especially as there's no doc + +I did try several time to fix some tools, and even some wizards. But +it was damn hard to read the code, understand it, grasp ugtk2/mygtk2 + +>><i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the +</I>>><i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could +</I>>><i> help a little. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> More doc would be better indeed. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except +</I>>><i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external +</I>>><i> contributions : They notably lack visibility. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> void argument: SUSE tools (yast, ...) are only used on SUSE, and the like +</I> +indeed. But Suse have Novell behind with more money and dev than you. + + +-- +Close the World, Open the Net +<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001708.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1720">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1720">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1720">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1720">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |