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+ <B>Fabrice Facorat</B>
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+<PRE>2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 1 October 2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> however Mandriva tools have some issues :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's your point of view. Every programmer will have its own POV.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus this is a void argument.
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+sure, but I do think that people learing programming langages, notably
+at school/university, first learn C-based langages ( C, C++, java,
+PHP, .Net ), and so are more used to theses kinds of structures/syntax
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+&gt;<i> I think an higher language makes the entry barrier smaller for new programmers:
+</I>&gt;<i> - real algorithms are not in hidden/drown malloc/free spagetti
+</I>&gt;<i> - no memory bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> - no security issues b/c of poorly thinked/coded memory management
+</I>
+I did talk about C-like syntax langages. For example mono, php, java, python.
+Ypu know having things like : if-then-else
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+&gt;<i> What's more, with ugtk2 &amp; mygtk2 it's easy to express a complex GUI
+</I>&gt;<i> with a compact
+</I>&gt;<i> &amp; powerfull dialect which would need 10 times more code to do in C
+</I>
+I did look several times at ugtk2/mygtk2 :
+- new dialect to learn
+- issues in the predefined widgets
+- syntax ( notably arg list ) hard to grasp, especially as there's no doc
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+I did try several time to fix some tools, and even some wizards. But
+it was damn hard to read the code, understand it, grasp ugtk2/mygtk2
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+&gt;&gt;<i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> help a little.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> More doc would be better indeed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contributions : They notably lack visibility.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> void argument: SUSE tools (yast, ...) are only used on SUSE, and the like
+</I>
+indeed. But Suse have Novell behind with more money and dev than you.
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+Close the World, Open the Net
+<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A>
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