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<B>Fabrice Facorat</B>
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<I>Fri Oct 1 15:22:24 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>2010/10/1 Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>>:
><i> On 1 October 2010 12:38, Fabrice Facorat <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>>><i> As we know, one of the Mandriva strenght are the Mandriva tools,
</I>>><i> however Mandriva tools have some issues :
</I>>><i> - they are written in perl. Sorry for perl dev, but I do still think
</I>>><i> that perl is harder to understand than C-like based syntax langages.
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</I>><i> That's your point of view. Every programmer will have its own POV.
</I>><i> Thus this is a void argument.
</I>
sure, but I do think that people learing programming langages, notably
at school/university, first learn C-based langages ( C, C++, java,
PHP, .Net ), and so are more used to theses kinds of structures/syntax
><i> I think an higher language makes the entry barrier smaller for new programmers:
</I>><i> - real algorithms are not in hidden/drown malloc/free spagetti
</I>><i> - no memory bugs
</I>><i> - no security issues b/c of poorly thinked/coded memory management
</I>
I did talk about C-like syntax langages. For example mono, php, java, python.
Ypu know having things like : if-then-else
><i> What's more, with ugtk2 & mygtk2 it's easy to express a complex GUI
</I>><i> with a compact
</I>><i> & powerfull dialect which would need 10 times more code to do in C
</I>
I did look several times at ugtk2/mygtk2 :
- new dialect to learn
- issues in the predefined widgets
- syntax ( notably arg list ) hard to grasp, especially as there's no doc
I did try several time to fix some tools, and even some wizards. But
it was damn hard to read the code, understand it, grasp ugtk2/mygtk2
>><i> However we must admit that we are not going to rewrite all the
</I>>><i> Mandriva tools ;-) However better documentation ( PerlDoc tags ) could
</I>>><i> help a little.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> More doc would be better indeed.
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</I>>><i> - Mandriva tools are not used by others distributions ( except
</I>>><i> PCLinuxOS, United Linux, and ... Mageia ) and so have few external
</I>>><i> contributions : They notably lack visibility.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> void argument: SUSE tools (yast, ...) are only used on SUSE, and the like
</I>
indeed. But Suse have Novell behind with more money and dev than you.
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