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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001252.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001252.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1c0ffe398 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001252.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925162742.1E68F952%40resin09.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001274.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925162742.1E68F952%40resin09.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 01:27:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1252">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1252">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1252">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1252">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +--- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A> escreveu: + +From: Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:05:44 -0400 + +On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, JUAN CARLOS <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">carlos.gilarranz at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> First, my English is not good but I try +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Second, as the icon theme, appearance and others believe it would be better +</I>><i> if it were completely different and a crystal environment. +</I>><i> +</I> +I agree. The look needs to be completely different. + + +-- +Hoyt + +What you think about this green pattern, used by an extinct distro? <A HREF="http://img.efetividade.net/img/debbrcddss1-h320.jpg">http://img.efetividade.net/img/debbrcddss1-h320.jpg</A> + + +_____________________________________________________________ +Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +<A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1252">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1252">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1252">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1252">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001253.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001253.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..846b94d44 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001253.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9ED246.7050202%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 06:55:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1253">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1253">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1253">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1253">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Olav Dahlum a écrit : +><i> On 22/09/10 10:38, Anne nicolas wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> Most agree that Mageia's destiny must now be in the hands of the community, and not depend on a company. Yes, but if said company is ready to act as a member of the community (like any of us but with maybe more means), and contribute to the project + do whatever it wants from the free distribution (corporate desktop, MDS, OEM products or anything else), then it's a win-win. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> And I pray again the former Edge-IT employees to avoid simply saying "I don't want to have anything to do with Mandriva", but rather the more nuanced "I don't want Mageia to depend on Mandriva" ! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Naïve point of view of mine ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not at all. Our goal is to make Mageia a succes for community. And I +</I>>><i> guess we have work enough for now :). +</I>>><i> Cheers +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ------- +</I>>><i> Anne +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> So we agree on most things in this thread? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -Olav. +</I>><i> ______________________________________________ +</I>Having watched the various opinions on this thread, I think it is very +important to collaberate with Mandriva to attain the goals of our +community distribution, as much as is reasonably possible. This +includes accepting foundation funding, sharing cooker, even Mandriva +representation on the board -- while maintaining our right to decide our +future direction. +In my mind evolving to a RedHat/Fedora relationship would be ideal, but +if not, look at the success of Mozilla, started with funding from AOL. +The advantage of an independant Mageia is that we focus on community +needs, and Mandriva focuses on commercial needs -- quite different +focuses, even though most of the software can be the same. +I'm glad to see that Anne is on side, and I hope that Romain will +continue to contribute to Mageia, as his experience seems invaluable. + +- André (just a long-time Mandriva user that hasn't to date contributed +much more than bug reports. And hopes to continue more actively to the +first Mageia release.) +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1253">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1253">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1253">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1253">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001254.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001254.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c098e443d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001254.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9EFE82.7070608%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001253.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001255.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9EFE82.7070608%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 10:04:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001253.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Given the present size of the +Mandriva user community (and similar activeness of team members), by +what factor would you whish to increase the size of the team? + +There is also a question of motivation: it is so much more motivating to +work in a team where you can see the positive results of your work - if +bugzilla triage and and bug handling gets a more positive image (maybe +that is also an issue of internal PR), it will be easier to recruit +volonteers - here lies the principal reason why I only considered to, +but did not, respond to the "join the triage team" post in Mandriva. And +motivation becomes even more important in the Mageia volonteer-only +environment - very OK today, but tomorrow? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001253.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Of +course, it depends on how much free time each member has. + +Also you can add to that number the active devs/packagers, who aren't +triage team members, but who would triage bugs they hit. Also +previously Frederic Crozat read every bug report, even if he didn't +post/comment on all of them. + +So you could say the collective number of people actively triaging +bugs is 3-5... + +><i> Given the present size of the Mandriva user +</I>><i> community (and similar activeness of team members), by what factor would you +</I>><i> whish to increase the size of the team? +</I>><i> +</I> +As much as possible of course, and best if they're specialized in +different areas, Perl, Python, C++, Kernel... etc. Also if each one of +them uses a different DE. + +><i> There is also a question of motivation: it is so much more motivating to +</I>><i> work in a team where you can see the positive results of your work - if +</I>><i> bugzilla triage and and bug handling gets a more positive image (maybe that +</I>><i> is also an issue of internal PR), it will be easier to recruit volonteers - +</I>><i> here lies the principal reason why I only considered to, but did not, +</I>><i> respond to the "join the triage team" post in Mandriva. And motivation +</I>><i> becomes even more important in the Mageia volonteer-only environment - very +</I>><i> OK today, but tomorrow? +</I>><i> +</I> +Triage team always has volunteers rather than paid employees. Adam +Williamson, paid employee, was triaging bugs where Pacho Ramos and Udo +Rader were contributors (just names of the top of my head). You see, +for non-developers, like me, triaging bugs is a good/easier way to +contribute, (for example I am not a kernel hacker, I can't help with +kernel stuff in the distro). + +To conclude, it's not about how many people are triaging bugs as much +as it's about how many people are fixing them. A bigger triage team +without a higher number of devs/packagers fixing bugs isn't gonna +change the situation that much.... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1255">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1255">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1255">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1255">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001256.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001256.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0c05d9558 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001256.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F24B8.1040100%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001255.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001263.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F24B8.1040100%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 12:47:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1256">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1256">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1256">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1256">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 09/26/2010 11:41 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: +><i> A bigger triage team +</I>><i> without a higher number of devs/packagers fixing bugs isn't gonna +</I>><i> change the situation that much +</I> +Michael Scherrer also insisted on this - I have been somewhat naive, I +now realise that this is a/the key issue. + +Let me continue with the luxury of naivity: the triage team should not +be let suffer silently in the background, but the "management" should +make this a concern of distro policy. And, nevertheless: if the triage +team (or ...) would have a little bit more breath (more active workers) +for going beyond just distributing bugs among developpers, plus a +"mandate" from management to lean on and prompt developpers, that should +also be helpful. + +To avoid overdramatising and comment on your first reply: before Mageia +showed up, I have passed a lot of time on "distro - sniffing": compared +to the distros I tried, and in my very subjective aperception, Mandriva +Linux has a quite low rate of severely annoying bugs. Nevertheless, here +is an issue to be addressed. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1256">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1256">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1256">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1256">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001257.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001257.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..277f00d35 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001257.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7ncj4%24uki%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001263.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001264.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads</H1> + <B>farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7ncj4%24uki%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads">farfouille64 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 13:59:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1257">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1257">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1257">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1257">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi + +I just changed the way I read and reply to Mageia ML but I need some help. + +Previously, I read ML using thunderbird, IMAP and TB rules to put ML +messages in a local folder. + +In order to avoid rules and to download every messages, I'm now using +gname. After a first try to 'pan' a GTK news reader that doesn't +convince me, I set an NNTP acount up in TB (which is also a news reader). + +When I reply to a message, the thread is not broken in the gmane/mageia +folder but it is in my previous local folder (filled with IMAP + TB +rules) that I haven't deleted yet. + +I don't want to bother ML readers that don't use gmane but I don't know +to correct this. + +Any help appreciated + +Cheer, +Farfouille + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1257">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1257">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1257">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1257">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001258.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001258.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1547b83a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001258.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BAufml%2C%20gifts%2C%20Magiea%2C%0A%20communication%5D%20Question%20about%20intro.%20text%20proposal%20for%20Aufml%0A%20Administrators&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim3eK_%3DQ%3D6Wzx6iZ2eXQZ-Lac6P3bYoU1zJT6%2Bz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001300.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001259.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators</H1> + <B>Benoit Audouard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BAufml%2C%20gifts%2C%20Magiea%2C%0A%20communication%5D%20Question%20about%20intro.%20text%20proposal%20for%20Aufml%0A%20Administrators&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim3eK_%3DQ%3D6Wzx6iZ2eXQZ-Lac6P3bYoU1zJT6%2Bz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators">baud123 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 15:10:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1258">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1258">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1258">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1258">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Re, + +2010/9/24 yvan munoz <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> 2010/9/24 Jérôme Martin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at delaur.net</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Why don't you post this an aufml mailing list ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Because it concern the two parties, and not only aufml +</I>><i> But, off course, aufml is the first, trough irc, to have link +</I>><i> +</I>><i> to be complete and close this thread, you may have seen than an official +</I>announce has been added at <A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org/">http://mandrivafr.org/</A> +by goom : <A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org/node/850">http://mandrivafr.org/node/850</A> + +@++ +Ben'. aka baud123 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/88b482a4/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1258">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1258">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1258">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1258">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001259.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001259.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b2daec982 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001259.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261530.53498.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001258.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001260.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request</H1> + <B>Marcello Anni</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261530.53498.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request">marcello.anni at alice.it + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 15:30:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1259">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1259">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1259">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1259">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>hi to all, +i too have decided to join mageia : ) i'm marcello anni, i'm 23 years old, i +study economics and i use mandriva since 2003. i can contribute as italian +wiki maintainer, as translator (for various tasks) and as promoter/news writer +and similar. + + +could you summarize in a few words the decisions taken so far in this ML? +thank you + + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1259">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1259">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1259">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1259">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001260.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001260.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0e2972606 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001260.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F4E2E.4070601%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001259.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001261.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F4E2E.4070601%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 15:44:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001261.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1260">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1260">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1260">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1260">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 26/09/2010 15:30, Marcello Anni a écrit : +><i> hi to all, +</I>><i> i too have decided to join mageia : ) i'm marcello anni, i'm 23 years old, i +</I>><i> study economics and i use mandriva since 2003. i can contribute as italian +</I>><i> wiki maintainer, as translator (for various tasks) and as promoter/news writer +</I>><i> and similar. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> could you summarize in a few words the decisions taken so far in this ML? +</I>><i> thank you +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cheers, +</I>><i> Marcello +</I>><i> +</I>You can register to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</A> +Mailing-list archives are here : +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/</A> + +Marianne + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001261.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1260">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1260">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1260">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1260">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001261.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001261.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ab316c5c3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001261.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261549.32002.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001260.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001265.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request</H1> + <B>Marcello Anni</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261549.32002.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request">marcello.anni at alice.it + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 15:49:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1261">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1261">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1261">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1261">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Le 26/09/2010 15:30, Marcello Anni a écrit : +</I>><i> > hi to all, +</I>><i> > i too have decided to join mageia : ) i'm marcello anni, i'm 23 years +</I>><i> > old, i study economics and i use mandriva since 2003. i can contribute +</I>><i> > as italian wiki maintainer, as translator (for various tasks) and as +</I>><i> > promoter/news writer and similar. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > could you summarize in a few words the decisions taken so far in this ML? +</I>><i> > thank you +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > cheers, +</I>><i> > Marcello +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can register to <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</A> +</I>><i> Mailing-list archives are here : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marianne +</I> +ok, that's better : ) + +thank you + + +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1261">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1261">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1261">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1261">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001262.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001262.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..12540c660 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001262.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Blog%20news%20-%20mageia-web%20creation&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261602.55907.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001265.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001271.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation</H1> + <B>Marcello Anni</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Blog%20news%20-%20mageia-web%20creation&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261602.55907.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation">marcello.anni at alice.it + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 16:02:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1262">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1262">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1262">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1262">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>hi to all, +there are enough news to update the blog with a new post? it will be +interesting to show already how mageia handle (and cares about) +communication.. another thing too: what do you think about opening a new ML +related to web mageia services? i think web services have completely different +needs against mageia-dev ML. please, let me know + + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1262">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1262">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1262">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1262">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001263.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001263.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e3c96cfae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001263.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? 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(...) +</I> +That has been my experience as well. In the last 10 years, +Mandriva/Mandrake has been the distro that has annoyed me the least, +letting me do whatever I wanted with minimal interference: multimedia +station, development station, home and small business server... you +name it. + +I'd like for Mageia to follow this path. + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1263">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1263">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1263">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1263">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001264.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001264.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fe0b7ebc4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001264.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikTv6isC18L3hV3YFHEwaRLduhY6%2BADBqXndyM1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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So i would prefer a gnome +(or e17 let's be crazy !) , with an eyecandy, sobre and zen theme (for +example I like Dropline neu for the icons and Unity), with applications +included like simple-scan and deja-dup (for backups) etc... +These are my wishes but maybe they will not be compatible with mageia +objectives and final choices. So everyone can see, and hope something +from Mageia different depending on his sensitivity (one likes kde, the +other one gnome, the other e17, some like blue themes, green , orange, +red ...). +If the objectives are not defined yet, maybe would it be nice to open a +page in order to gather the wishes of the future community, by themes, +but step by step: first : the objectives - second : the target - third : +the look ... +On the contrary, if all this is already planned, communicate it in order +to avoid discussions in all directions in lists and blogs... + +In other words it would be usefull to put in place tools to drive the +project in order that the community and potential contributors can go in +the same direction and agree to the project. + +Maybe am I a bit pretentious, but this is the feeling that I have +reading all posts in mailing lists. + +David. +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 239 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/ae33e1dc/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1267">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1267">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1267">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1267">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001268.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001268.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7701a894f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001268.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F7A0D.1030206%40comcast.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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The basic +goals have been given in the announcement, details are being worked +on. The mailing lists, especially the general mageia-discuss is a mere +brainstorming where everybody give shis ideas and opinons, with no +real structure. The necessary structure is in the making, like the +i18n mailing lists. Coem structure, come real discussions which will +lead to results, gathering the current unstructured ideas and forming +them in the various sections. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001267.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1269">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1269">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1269">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1269">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001270.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001270.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2589dceed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001270.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim%2BBDxoAHFXeJWAS4aoTsDsoRRkAyx3Ku5MYPmL%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001264.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001301.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim%2BBDxoAHFXeJWAS4aoTsDsoRRkAyx3Ku5MYPmL%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 18:58:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1270">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1270">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1270">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1270">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Just joining in on this: although I spent years with mailinglists and +usenet, forum like structures are far better to navigate and easier to +use for me. So I tried Gmane, but the web interface is very slow and +far behind the real discussion. While the web interface showed a first +mail of a thread there were already 5 or 6 comments/replies in the +mailing list. + +Is there any other chance to use Gmane without a dedicated client on +one machine? I'm switching machines several times a day, so one TB or +whatever on the machine at one place does not help when I'm elsewhere +or using another machine at home. + +Right now I'm using googlemail with the mailing lists and it is +getting more chaotic every hour. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1270">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1270">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1270">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1270">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001271.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001271.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1c102387e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001271.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Blog%20news%20-%20mageia-web%20creation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DawMbmS1wCE0uFZuV5xpqUJ7HGRKfikxhuUpb_%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001262.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001266.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Blog%20news%20-%20mageia-web%20creation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DawMbmS1wCE0uFZuV5xpqUJ7HGRKfikxhuUpb_%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:01:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1271">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1271">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1271">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1271">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/26 Marcello Anni <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>>: +><i> hi to all, +</I>><i> there are enough news to update the blog with a new post? it will be +</I>><i> interesting to show already how mageia handle (and cares about) +</I>><i> communication.. another thing too: what do you think about opening a new ML +</I>><i> related to web mageia services? i think web services have completely different +</I>><i> needs against mageia-dev ML. please, let me know +</I> +As told by some other people, go to the wiki and have a look, there's +also the communication "group" where people gather who will be working +on such things. + +Right now the few decisions were/are communicated in the blog page, +most discussions in the mailing lists are in an early stage without +results yet. + +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1271">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1271">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1271">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1271">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001272.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001272.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..60a1f99e3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001272.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F7CBF.8050609%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001269.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001273.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>david</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F7CBF.8050609%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">david.naura at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:02:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1272">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1272">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1272">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1272">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> OK so let's dream in the mailing lists ? + +Le 26/09/2010 18:51, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2010/9/26 david<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david.naura at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>>><i> I am reading all posts, some very interesting on this new exciting project. +</I>>><i> But I think that as we say in french : "on met la charrue avant les boeufs". +</I>>><i> I think the first thing to do is to establish a strategy (which was not +</I>>><i> clear with mandriva): what are the goals, the values of mageia, who is the +</I>>><i> targeted public (newbies and/or people coming from windows and/or geeks +</I>>><i> and/or professionnals and/or ...), what will the communication vectors be, +</I>>><i> how do we want to stand facing concurrence and other distros and so on.... +</I>>><i> Then you can choose/select logos, colors, window manager(s), software +</I>>><i> included in the distros, development of specific applications... depending +</I>>><i> on the answers to the previous questions. +</I>><i> As you can read in the Mageiea blog this is in the making. The basic +</I>><i> goals have been given in the announcement, details are being worked +</I>><i> on. The mailing lists, especially the general mageia-discuss is a mere +</I>><i> brainstorming where everybody give shis ideas and opinons, with no +</I>><i> real structure. The necessary structure is in the making, like the +</I>><i> i18n mailing lists. Coem structure, come real discussions which will +</I>><i> lead to results, gathering the current unstructured ideas and forming +</I>><i> them in the various sections. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 239 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/75f564c6/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1272">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1272">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1272">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1272">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001273.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001273.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fc31b2e9c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001273.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262012.35314.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001272.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001275.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>P. Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262012.35314.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:12:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1273">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1273">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1273">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1273">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sunday 26 September 2010, david wrote: +><i> For example my wish would be a generalist distro (like ubuntu) for +</I>><i> newbies and/or microsoft users,... +</I> +Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone: +why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every +product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots +of them) + +Can't we please keep building a distro for *Linux* users? +If people choose Linux, they shall obviously like Linux, not Windoze. It's +like we are trying to serve a vanilla ice cream to people who prefer +chocolate. Can we, please, keep making vanilla taste like vanilla? We had been +good at that, some years ago. + +Lets see again what features had made us like linux in the first place: + - It used to be light and fast. (not like KDE4 or win Vista) + - It used to be able to run for months, even years without a crash or need to +reboot.. (not like knotify4 and pulseaudio) + - It used to do all the things we wanted, with plethora of tools (not like +Gnome or Apple) + - It used to allow us to configure either through gui tools, or through +cmdline and text files (not like the modern "desktop" trends). + - It could connect to the network without the need of a GUI server/client +(not like networkmanager) + - It was free from closed-source applications (not like Android) + - It had allowed us to have a continuous desktop (+home) for many years, +including all the software upgrades, without need to format our disks every 6 +months (not like Ubuntu or some KDE4 apps). + +So, if we try to sell "better Windows", we'd better just give up and let +Micro$oft do their job, they are better at it. + +On the other, marketing-wise, side, when we try to re-invent Windows, we just +admit that our Linux vision was flawed. And, of course, we let down all the +people that had believed our promises about Linux. + +</rant> + + + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1273">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1273">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1273">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1273">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001274.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001274.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6352b2305 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001274.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F8087.7070306%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001252.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001253.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>david</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F8087.7070306%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">david.naura at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:19:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001252.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001253.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1274">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1274">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1274">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1274">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> I do also agree. Mageia should have its own and original identity. +Why not involve art students or design students (moreover could be a +good project for them if included in their cursus)? +It could be also the occasion for the final choice to organize a special +event, with media (good for communication)? + +Le 26/09/2010 01:27, André Machado a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A> escreveu: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> From: Hoyt Duff<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</I>><i> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:05:44 -0400 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, JUAN CARLOS<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">carlos.gilarranz at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> First, my English is not good but I try +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Second, as the icon theme, appearance and others believe it would be better +</I>>><i> if it were completely different and a crystal environment. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I agree. 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Christeas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">p_christ at hol.gr</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone: +</I>><i> why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every +</I>><i> product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots +</I>><i> of them) +</I> +Ah, sorry, I do not quite understand. Last time I used Windows (except +the occasional browser in an internet cafe), was middle of the +nineties. So, were Mandriva and all the others not made for me? + +I've been a Linux user not a Windows user for many years, and I always +thought Mandriva, Fedora, openSUSE, Debian, whatever, was made for me! +I know to use vi and emacs, I know to use fluxbox and similar lean +systems. But I also like knotify and the "modern desktop trends". So I +am not a Linux user? + +As long as I know how to do it the "basic way" I do not feel "non +Linux" when I use KDE 4 or whatever you may regard as "windowish". +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1275">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1275">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1275">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1275">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001292.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001292.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff2bfd20d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001292.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261933.46391.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001310.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001305.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Renaud MICHEL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261933.46391.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:33:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1292">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1292">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1292">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1292">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On dimanche 26 septembre 2010 at 18:42, david wrote : +><i> For example my wish would be a generalist distro (like ubuntu) for +</I>><i> newbies and/or microsoft users, easy to use, eyecandy, completely +</I>><i> customized in french, much more ergonomic than mandriva in order to +</I>><i> propose it for my customers (I founded a company to promote Linux and +</I>><i> opensource to individuals & professionnals). So i would prefer a gnome +</I>><i> (or e17 let's be crazy !) , with an eyecandy, sobre and zen theme (for +</I>><i> example I like Dropline neu for the icons and Unity), with applications +</I>><i> included like simple-scan and deja-dup (for backups) etc... +</I> +I disagree here. +I am a power-user, and what I like with mandriva so far is that, while still +providing an easy to install distro with sensible defaults, it does not hide +away all the power you can get from a Unix/Linux OS. It is still quite easy +to tweak the system. +For example, as a java developer I am happy to have multiple JDK available +which can be installed in parallel (good for testing), while the average +user will simply get the default (openjdk actually). + +Like P. Christeas said in his rant, I don't want mageia to be dumbed down, +IMO the current status of mandriva (and so the starting point of mageia) is +a good compromise: it is easy to have a working install, but it is also easy +to customize it to your needs while staying compatible with future updates. + +cheers +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1292">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1292">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1292">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1292">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001293.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001293.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..817bb3872 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001293.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D036HDM630O5%3Di63opo5TFK-Tu0mOvvLaTtE3_%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001268.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001295.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D036HDM630O5%3Di63opo5TFK-Tu0mOvvLaTtE3_%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:36:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1293">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1293">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1293">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1293">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/21 verdeterra <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">verdeterra at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Wolfgang Bornath, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just saw now, but the header of the wiki says that this format will be +</I>><i> temporary. Maybe they will install mediawiki in the future. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "Mageia temporary wiki" - "This wiki is temporary, for setup purposes and +</I>><i> contributions lists. It will be erased in the future". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MacXi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Em Ter 21 Set 2010, às 17:59:34, Wolfgang Bornath escreveu: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 2010/9/21 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > Very good to know that the wiki is already available, and that is with +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > the software DokuWiki. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > I made a text about wiki software "DokuWiki" in the wiki MandrivaBrasil: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> We are using DokuWiki as well on MandrivaUser.de so people should have +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> no problems with that, German hepl text available in our wiki ;) +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I> +Yes, I know and I'm not amused :) + +PS: Pls do not top post! +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1293">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1293">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1293">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1293">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001294.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001294.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db22bc106 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001294.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262042.51754.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001275.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001303.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>P. Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262042.51754.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:42:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1294">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1294">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1294">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1294">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sunday 26 September 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> Ah, sorry, I do not quite understand. Last time I used Windows (except +</I>><i> the occasional browser in an internet cafe), was middle of the +</I>><i> nineties. So, were Mandriva and all the others not made for me? +</I>Notice the phrase "keep being Linux" at my post. +So, question: who should better influcence the fate of a Linux distro? Ones +that prefer Windows or the ones that liked Linux on the first place? + +><i> +</I>><i> I've been a Linux user not a Windows user for many years, and I always +</I>><i> thought Mandriva, Fedora, openSUSE, Debian, whatever, was made for me! +</I>><i> I know to use vi and emacs, I know to use fluxbox and similar lean +</I>><i> systems. But I also like knotify and the "modern desktop trends". So I +</I>><i> am not a Linux user? +</I>I did comment on the /stability/ of knotify4 and the fact that it brings your +system down, to a level worse than Windows. + +><i> As long as I know how to do it the "basic way" I do not feel "non +</I>><i> Linux" when I use KDE 4 or whatever you may regard as "windowish". +</I>I regard as Windowish the policy that "if the appearance is OK, then the +software is fine", rather than the Unix/Linux mentality that software must be +rock solid and able to "survive" in a pool of bugs. + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1294">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1294">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1294">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1294">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001295.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001295.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f9cabccb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001295.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikB4oW2kPvk4Zsxyg4nZ2H1FmHHwWtAn%3DNRq_eG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001293.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001297.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikB4oW2kPvk4Zsxyg4nZ2H1FmHHwWtAn%3DNRq_eG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:44:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001293.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001297.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1295">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1295">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1295">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1295">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:13 AM, RAVI KUMAR BALASUBRAMANIAM +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ravikumar17jan at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages +</I>><i> i prefer apt and deb personally +</I>><i> +</I> I can understand a personal preference, but why do you believe that +deb is superior to rpm? Given that Mandriva is already rpm-based, what +benefit could be derived from abandoning the existing build system and +urpmi? + +><i>From everything I have read, neither system has a clear advantage over +</I>the other, and the end result of using either is essentially the same. +I don't believe that changing to a deb-based system would provide any +significant benefit to justify the expense in terms of re-training +devs and creating a new build system. + +-- +Hoyt Duff +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001293.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001297.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1295">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1295">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1295">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1295">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001296.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001296.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6832aee14 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001296.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261950.26349.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001330.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001298.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3C201009261950.26349.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 19:50:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1296">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1296">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1296">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1296">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 13:56:40 schreef Mihai Dobrescu: +><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Oliver Burger +</I><<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: +><i> > Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Oliver Burger +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > > I think so, too. And it was said a number of times. Mageia is not +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > created +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > > to work against Mandriva. So why should we try to highjack packages? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Yes, it is possible if Mageia is better than Mandriva to harm +</I>><i> > > Mandriva... Will you ever be one step back just not to harm it? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > No, I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about staying one (or any) +</I>><i> > steps +</I>><i> > behind Mandriva. I was just against highjacking something. If there are +</I>><i> > packages for Mandriva let them use them. +</I>><i> > There won't be a first release of Mageia for quite some time, I think. +</I>><i> > Perhaps +</I>><i> > in three/for month, who knows? Sure we should use the newest stable +</I>><i> > versions +</I>><i> > of every software we use, then and sure we can experiment with software +</I>><i> > not so +</I>><i> > stable in the Cauldron, but let's wait till we really have something to +</I>><i> > work +</I>><i> > with! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Oliver +</I>><i> > _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> > Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, I was rhetorical. Let's do it! As best as we could! (if I can +</I>><i> say that in English) But organized. Every thing at its time. It is hard to +</I>><i> temper the enthusiasm. It's hard to temper the rush. But it's necessary in +</I>><i> order to do the things right. What means to build KDE for Mandriva/Mageia? +</I>><i> I mean beyond retrieving sources, make and make install? +</I> +a revision control system, a build system and a release system, a primary +mirror and mirrors (i think the last part is mostly ok :-) ). +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1296">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1296">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1296">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1296">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001297.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001297.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e999abd10 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001297.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926200307.79534f35%40laptop%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001295.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001320.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Sandro Cazzaniga</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926200307.79534f35%40laptop%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:03:07 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1297">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1297">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1297">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1297">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:44:38 -0400, +Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : + +><i> only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages +</I>><i> i prefer apt and deb pe +</I> +It's a fork of Mandriva. Mandriva use rpm so mageia will probably use +rpm too. +Without it, we have to kill urpm* projects.... +-- +Sandro Cazzaniga +Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>) +Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>) +Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>) +Developer (Perl, Bash, C) +Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise +(<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1297">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1297">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1297">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1297">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001298.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001298.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c163cd6c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001298.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262012.51250.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001296.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001304.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262012.51250.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:12:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1298">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1298">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1298">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1298">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 13:58:15 schreef Farfouille: +[...] +><i> I do not fully agree with your demonstration, Michael. Mageia targets +</I>><i> also Average Joe which obviously is not and never be a developer. Your +</I>><i> conclusion is more appropriate for distros like fedora, which states +</I>><i> clearly that their target audience is computer-friendly user +</I>><i> (<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base</A>) +</I>[...] + +That being said: if we form people from X -> Y , they don't necessarily stop +being the target-audience. + +We could also alter that definition and also mention that the second group of +targeted audience are the Mageia contributers. + +Furthermore, it's probably useful to have a good way to facilitate those +users; documentation or whatever. + +I would propose in packaging to have an extra list of people who want to learn +how to package. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1298">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1298">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1298">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1298">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001299.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001299.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5aeef4c7a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001299.html @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F8DC2.5010401%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001318.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001302.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>david</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F8DC2.5010401%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">david.naura at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:15:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1299">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1299">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1299">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1299">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> That is just what I wanted to point out : all Linux users don't have +the same objectives. +What will be Mageia's one? +I am a long date user of Unix (more than 20years) and Linux (since the +beginning), mostly in command line, but I think that with light desktops +like Gnome or E17 , we can break the mercantile (commercial) way of +thinking the computer, and offer all Linux advantages to people who are +not aware of other solutions. For example I have in my customers , old +people who have some basic needs (like 90% of computer users) : +internet, mail , be in touch through IRC, skype or other tools with +their families. Why should we let Microsoft and computers vendors sell +them expensive tools that they don't need? Linux is able to satisfy +their needs at a low cost and cost is often a problem for old people +with small pensions. +Personnaly I don't like the thinking of being a small community not +opened on the external world, and not looking what is good and well done +by Apple, Ubuntu, Fedora and so on. I think that for these people there +are already good distros like LFS, Sourcemage or Slackware. And Mandriva +is not the one. It seems that Mandriva has began to look for end users +needs but has not finished the job (for example english sentences and +words in locale version during installation, no own identity in the look +with the blue theme inherited from w95...). +Doing nothing and staying in our small circle will encourage Microsoft +and co to continue distributing sh**t to people, produce endlessly more +powerfull computers for nothing... I don't want to participate to this +movement and want to make proselytism for open source. +Another word from microsoft users: they did not choose their distro, it +was imposed to them. +Today there is only one distro having really working in this way. I +would like to see Mandriva to do so, but it won't... +So will Mageia do? +Wil it be a distro, form you , for me or or both? + + +Le 26/09/2010 19:12, P. Christeas a écrit : +><i> On Sunday 26 September 2010, david wrote: +</I>>><i> For example my wish would be a generalist distro (like ubuntu) for +</I>>><i> newbies and/or microsoft users,... +</I>><i> Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone: +</I>><i> why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every +</I>><i> product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots +</I>><i> of them) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Can't we please keep building a distro for *Linux* users? +</I>><i> If people choose Linux, they shall obviously like Linux, not Windoze. It's +</I>><i> like we are trying to serve a vanilla ice cream to people who prefer +</I>><i> chocolate. Can we, please, keep making vanilla taste like vanilla? We had been +</I>><i> good at that, some years ago. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Lets see again what features had made us like linux in the first place: +</I>><i> - It used to be light and fast. (not like KDE4 or win Vista) +</I>><i> - It used to be able to run for months, even years without a crash or need to +</I>><i> reboot.. (not like knotify4 and pulseaudio) +</I>><i> - It used to do all the things we wanted, with plethora of tools (not like +</I>><i> Gnome or Apple) +</I>><i> - It used to allow us to configure either through gui tools, or through +</I>><i> cmdline and text files (not like the modern "desktop" trends). +</I>><i> - It could connect to the network without the need of a GUI server/client +</I>><i> (not like networkmanager) +</I>><i> - It was free from closed-source applications (not like Android) +</I>><i> - It had allowed us to have a continuous desktop (+home) for many years, +</I>><i> including all the software upgrades, without need to format our disks every 6 +</I>><i> months (not like Ubuntu or some KDE4 apps). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, if we try to sell "better Windows", we'd better just give up and let +</I>><i> Micro$oft do their job, they are better at it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the other, marketing-wise, side, when we try to re-invent Windows, we just +</I>><i> admit that our Linux vision was flawed. And, of course, we let down all the +</I>><i> people that had believed our promises about Linux. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> </rant> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 239 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/7d29c8ac/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1299">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1299">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1299">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1299">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001300.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001300.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..324c5c118 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001300.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7o2t0%24lfn%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001323.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001258.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads</H1> + <B>farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7o2t0%24lfn%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads">farfouille64 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:20:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1300">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1300">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1300">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1300">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 26/09/2010 17:45, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit : +><i> (...) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why not use Thunderbird as a news (USENET/NNTP) reader? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I> +Well I'm afraid my previous message wasn't clear. + +I'm already using Thunderbird to read Usenet/nntp on gmane more +precisely on news.gmane.org but it seems to break thread at least when +not using gmane (which is a gateway between mailing list and Usenet) + +Cheer, +Farfouille + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1300">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1300">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1300">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1300">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001301.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001301.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9cfbd443c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001301.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7o2ub%24lfn%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001270.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001323.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads</H1> + <B>farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7o2ub%24lfn%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads">farfouille64 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:20:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001270.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1301">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1301">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1301">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1301">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 26/09/2010 18:58, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> Just joining in on this: although I spent years with mailinglists and +</I>><i> usenet, forum like structures are far better to navigate and easier to +</I>><i> use for me. So I tried Gmane, but the web interface is very slow and +</I>><i> far behind the real discussion. While the web interface showed a first +</I>><i> mail of a thread there were already 5 or 6 comments/replies in the +</I>><i> mailing list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is there any other chance to use Gmane without a dedicated client on +</I>><i> one machine? I'm switching machines several times a day, so one TB or +</I>><i> whatever on the machine at one place does not help when I'm elsewhere +</I>><i> or using another machine at home. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Right now I'm using googlemail with the mailing lists and it is +</I>><i> getting more chaotic every hour. +</I>><i> +</I> +So gmane doesn't seem to be a good solution, isn't it ? + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001270.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1301">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1301">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1301">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1301">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001302.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001302.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7cd0e84c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001302.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikNgNaEc4T8F7eft4OQRib-dTo_yzXggFOWYAet%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001299.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001308.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikNgNaEc4T8F7eft4OQRib-dTo_yzXggFOWYAet%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">dglent at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:29:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1302">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1302">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1302">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1302">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/26 P. Christeas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">p_christ at hol.gr</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Lets see again what features had made us like linux in the first place: +</I>><i> - It used to be light and fast. (not like KDE4 or win Vista) +</I>><i> - It used to be able to run for months, even years without a crash or need +</I>><i> to +</I>><i> reboot.. (not like knotify4 and pulseaudio) +</I>><i> - It used to do all the things we wanted, with plethora of tools (not like +</I>><i> Gnome or Apple) +</I>><i> - It used to allow us to configure either through gui tools, or through +</I>><i> cmdline and text files (not like the modern "desktop" trends). +</I>><i> - It could connect to the network without the need of a GUI server/client +</I>><i> (not like networkmanager) +</I>><i> - It was free from closed-source applications (not like Android) +</I>><i> - It had allowed us to have a continuous desktop (+home) for many years, +</I>><i> including all the software upgrades, without need to format our disks every +</I>><i> 6 +</I>><i> months (not like Ubuntu or some KDE4 apps). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I agree with this list and i'd like to add also: +- Dont hide the root (with sudo commands etc) +:<i>) +</I> +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/81f6fc1a/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1302">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1302">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1302">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1302">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001303.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001303.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2cc62c2f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001303.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DaGvNv-bnAreD%3DM8EWPhrdpfKcpxOTpdtS7vGM%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001294.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001312.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DaGvNv-bnAreD%3DM8EWPhrdpfKcpxOTpdtS7vGM%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:32:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I also appreciate the way that Mandriva provided reasonable defaults +but allowed one to choose alternatives. + +As far a desktops, while Mandrake/Mandriva has always been known as a +KDE-centric distro, they have also provided well-appointed alternative +desktop environments. Given the disaster that the introduction of KDE4 +has been, it's no wonder that Mandriva has gained an undeserved number +of detractors. Mandriva also has a reputation of having buggy x.0 +releases, probably due to competitive pressure from other distros and +business management; Mageia shold be able to address those issues +easily enough. + +What do I see as Mandriva strengths? + +- broad hardware support, often superior to other distros +- a good installer with sensible defaults, but also providing powerful +flexibility +- excellent well-integrated admin tools +- well-configured defaults for all desktop environments with good +distro-specific integration for all of them. +- a wide variety of kernels and packages +- the support of PLF for license-impaired software +- an adventuresome community + +What do I see as Mandriva weaknesses? + +- lack of a coherent management vision, often distracted by peripheral +issues that wasted scarce resources +- unattractive graphic choices that made it look childish and less +than cutting-edge +- poor bug handling; triage seemed OK overall, but fixing the bugs was +slow and deficient +- no clear vision for providing help and information resources, with +community sources poorly co-opted by often inadequate "official" info + +Of course, we all have different lists and experiences and opinions. I +only offer this as an appeal to focus on keeping what made Mandriva +good and fixing what made it less than good. Having used Mandriva +since Mandrake 5.2, having been a founding shareholder of Mandriva and +a contributor to the 7.x documentation and a published Linux author, +I see Mandriva's biggest failure as having lacked a thought-out and +consistent vision and mission. That was mostly due to bad management +and leadership, but also due to the impulsiveness on FOSS that I can +see occurring in much of the thinking expressed in these mail-list +discussions. + +I suggest that the conversation focus both on what we want Mageia to +be and what it should NOT be while trying to avoid the traditional +emacs vs. vi, Mac vs. PC, DEB vs. RPM, Perl vs. Python, Linux vs. +Windows mentality that is so much fun, but so unproductive. . + + +-- +Hoyt Duff +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001304.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001304.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..27006857b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001304.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%2C%20a%20ver%20si%20les%20gusta%2C%20falta%20pulirlo.&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926203245.7a09b929%40gaia%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001298.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001307.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.</H1> + <B>André Salaün</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%2C%20a%20ver%20si%20les%20gusta%2C%20falta%20pulirlo.&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926203245.7a09b929%40gaia%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:32:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1304">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1304">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1304">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1304">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:55:05 -0600 +Ricardo Manuel Arroyo Alvarado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rarroyo23 at gmail.com</A>> a écrit: + +><i> muestra de posible logo, también acá: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7849/mageia3.jpg">http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7849/mageia3.jpg</A> +</I> +Oh ! This Phœnix looks like our pathetic stupid french cock ! +;-) + +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1304">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1304">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1304">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1304">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001305.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001305.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..90283eb57 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001305.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F9213.3020207%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001292.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001306.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>david</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F9213.3020207%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">david.naura at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:33:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1305">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1305">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1305">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1305">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> It is not uncompatible: you can offer a distro tunable bu taccessible +to everyone. Mandriva One is tending in this way but unperfectly. + +Le 26/09/2010 19:33, Renaud MICHEL a écrit : +><i> On dimanche 26 septembre 2010 at 18:42, david wrote : +</I>>><i> For example my wish would be a generalist distro (like ubuntu) for +</I>>><i> newbies and/or microsoft users, easy to use, eyecandy, completely +</I>>><i> customized in french, much more ergonomic than mandriva in order to +</I>>><i> propose it for my customers (I founded a company to promote Linux and +</I>>><i> opensource to individuals& professionnals). So i would prefer a gnome +</I>>><i> (or e17 let's be crazy !) , with an eyecandy, sobre and zen theme (for +</I>>><i> example I like Dropline neu for the icons and Unity), with applications +</I>>><i> included like simple-scan and deja-dup (for backups) etc... +</I>><i> I disagree here. +</I>><i> I am a power-user, and what I like with mandriva so far is that, while still +</I>><i> providing an easy to install distro with sensible defaults, it does not hide +</I>><i> away all the power you can get from a Unix/Linux OS. It is still quite easy +</I>><i> to tweak the system. +</I>><i> For example, as a java developer I am happy to have multiple JDK available +</I>><i> which can be installed in parallel (good for testing), while the average +</I>><i> user will simply get the default (openjdk actually). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Like P. Christeas said in his rant, I don't want mageia to be dumbed down, +</I>><i> IMO the current status of mandriva (and so the starting point of mageia) is +</I>><i> a good compromise: it is easy to have a working install, but it is also easy +</I>><i> to customize it to your needs while staying compatible with future updates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cheers +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 239 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/4d8d708c/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1305">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1305">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1305">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1305">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001306.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001306.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aa76d0bd7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001306.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262041.31472.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001305.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001268.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262041.31472.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:41:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1306">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1306">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1306">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1306">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>david <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david.naura at laposte.net</A>> +><i> It is not uncompatible: you can offer a distro tunable bu taccessible +</I>><i> to everyone. Mandriva One is tending in this way but unperfectly. +</I> +No top posting, please! +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1306">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1306">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1306">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1306">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001307.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001307.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..450a6c875 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001307.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%2C%20a%20ver%20si%20les%20gusta%2C%20falta%20pulirlo.&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F9538.2030808%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001304.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001309.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Logo%2C%20a%20ver%20si%20les%20gusta%2C%20falta%20pulirlo.&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F9538.2030808%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo.">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:47:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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Bush, Aug. 5, '04 + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1308">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1308">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1308">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1308">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001309.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001309.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..af7a271ac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001309.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20100926T204549-235%40post.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001307.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001313.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>isadora2010</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20100926T204549-235%40post.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">isis2000 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 20:48:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>If there are significant advantages in apt and deb it is maybe worth looking at +it. Unfortunately i do not know either really. Use rpm ever since 2000, and it +never disappointed in what i used it for: installing, removing and upgrading +software. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001310.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001310.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a1b7476dd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001310.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9F9B8B.9030700%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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And I told so to +Mandriva through suggestions, support and so on. +Mandriva's distro has big potential but not used. Some minor (sometimes +even basic) corrections and modifications, and a real communication +effort (when it is told about Linux in general Press thee is only one +name...) could make it a leader in terms of popularity (not in term of +business). +Will it be the case with Mageia? + +><i> I suggest that the conversation focus both on what we want Mageia to +</I>><i> be and what it should NOT be while trying to avoid the traditional +</I>><i> emacs vs. vi, Mac vs. PC, DEB vs. RPM, Perl vs. Python, Linux vs. +</I>><i> Windows mentality that is so much fun, but so unproductive. . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>That was the objective of this thread; other considerations are just +consequences of strategical choices made by Mageia. +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 229 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/ade3226a/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1312">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1312">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1312">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1312">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001313.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001313.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb8805401 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001313.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CSNT124-W31F473B5AA0A6E0BEB2B9A9F640%40phx.gbl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001309.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001314.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>paulo ricardo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CSNT124-W31F473B5AA0A6E0BEB2B9A9F640%40phx.gbl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">paulo_ricardogo at hotmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 21:22:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +When the mandrake joined with Conectiva they will throw away the package manager developed by the Brazilian company, the "Synaptic"! Synaptic began to be adopted in debian systems, and these systems now exceed the mandriva! + +We should keep the center of control over the exchange through Synaptic package manager and deploy a second interface for users with less knowledge. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/c094da46/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001314.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001314.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..daba886e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001314.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262137.40444.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001313.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001321.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C201009262137.40444.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 21:37:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>paulo ricardo <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paulo_ricardogo at hotmail.com</A>> +><i> We should keep the center of control over the exchange through Synaptic +</I>><i> package manager and deploy a second interface for users with less +</I>><i> knowledge. +</I>There was already a thread about this and the result was: At least for the +time being, we'll stick to urpmi/rpmdrake, when I remember correctly, just +look it up. The thread title was something like "Gui tools". + +Anyhow, it's way too soon to discuss things like that. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001315.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001315.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e44c5d181 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001315.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Good move + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FAC23.10904%40comcast.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001329.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001316.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Good move</H1> + <B>Lawrence A Fossi</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FAC23.10904%40comcast.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Good move">DarkFoss at comcast.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 22:25:07 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I wanted to reply earlier but this thread had gotten lost in the deluge. + +I think that it should be up to Mageia to make the first move, given the +circumstances of Gaël's departure from Mandriva. +He may be hesitant to offer to join not knowing if he would be welcomed. + Or if Mageia would want the potential negative speculations behind such +a move or add to Mandriva's discomfort. + +Personally I see it as more of a positive if Mageia extends the olive +branch..even if he declines due to his commitment to Ulteo. He can say +so if interviewed,or on facebook, twitter,blogging ect. + +This way both sides can avoid any awkward situations if the question +should pop up down the road in the press either interviewing someone +representing Mageia or Gaël himself.. + +Of course if he says Yes that too would be most interesting. + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001316.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001316.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..69d247cde --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001316.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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I use it. But like say in brazil "in team that win +don't change". + +Cheers, + +Adjamilton Júnior + +Em 26 de setembro de 2010 17:28, André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>>escreveu: + +><i> +</I>><i> I believe that past and present Mandriva users would not want change your +</I>><i> package format. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _____________________________________________________________ +</I>><i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com---">http://www.DCemail.com---</A>> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/86e66db6/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1317">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1317">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1317">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1317">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001318.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001318.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..12f09a8ed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001318.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikj-yTp7tnumzsJxYuLi0RKiGjtpVzJtuwUpFAD%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001312.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001299.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Sascha Schneider</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikj-yTp7tnumzsJxYuLi0RKiGjtpVzJtuwUpFAD%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">schneider at zawm.be + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 22:15:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1318">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1318">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1318">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1318">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> +</I>><i> Mandriva's distro has big potential but not used. Some minor (sometimes +</I>><i> even basic) corrections and modifications, and a real communication effort +</I>><i> (when it is told about Linux in general Press thee is only one name...) +</I>><i> could make it a leader in terms of popularity (not in term of business). +</I>><i> Will it be the case with Mageia? +</I>><i> +</I> +I totally agree to that and I hope Mageia will make this happen. + +But I also agree that at this time Mageia has to saddle as a fork, +structures have to be build, etc. + +Plus, we wouldn't use Mandriva if we don't like the way it works. So no need +to change to deb or make Gnome the primer Desktop Env. or stuff like that + +My dream would be a very User and Admin friendly Disto + +One Installer CD for Desktop Dualarch - metapacks for the desktop env +One Installer CD for a Serverversion inkl. LXDE + MMC-base and metapaks for +some spezial apps inkl. the MMC modules (and pulse) +One Installer CD for a Virtualserver using f.e. OpenVZ and a MMC based webui +and some community templates + +In my opinion with this simple trippelisation you can arrange all kind of +home, business, school, multimedia, netbook ... structures you ever imagine +all with one Distro. + +just my 5eurocent, + +greetings from belgium, Sascha +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/3a258ebf/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1318">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1318">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1318">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1318">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001319.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001319.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fac7b817f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001319.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926204622.GP15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001317.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001322.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926204622.GP15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 22:46:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1319">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1319">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1319">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1319">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, André Machado wrote: + +><i> +</I> +Please fix or use an other email client. 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Mandriva use rpm so mageia will probably use +</I>><i> rpm too. +</I>><i> Without it, we have to kill urpm* projects.... +</I> +You can not even doubt that we must use packet types, the MCC is +designed to use and manage RPRDRAKE such packages. To change should +start from the ground, at least I guess. The advantages of RPR on the +DEB packages are not obvious but they exist and why many users prefer. +My apologies to those who think differently but almost absurd to +discuss this as the heart of this distro are RPM packages, its ease of +use and installation. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001297.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001325.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1320">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1320">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1320">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1320">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001321.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001321.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5cfef143c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001321.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926145920.60086ed7%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001314.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001329.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>francisco monge a</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C20100926145920.60086ed7%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">hellfranciscodrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 22:59:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>El Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:37:40 +0200 +Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> escribió: +><i> paulo ricardo <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paulo_ricardogo at hotmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> > We should keep the center of control over the exchange through +</I>><i> > Synaptic package manager and deploy a second interface for users +</I>><i> > with less knowledge. +</I>><i> There was already a thread about this and the result was: At least +</I>><i> for the time being, we'll stick to urpmi/rpmdrake, when I remember +</I>><i> correctly, just look it up. The thread title was something like "Gui +</I>><i> tools". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Anyhow, it's way too soon to discuss things like that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I> +I used Synaptic and leaves much to be desired in some respects, +especially with the handling of dependencies, is confusing and anything +but a novice can use it easily. If anything I liked on Mandrake and +Mandriva was so easy to use rpmdrake. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001322.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001322.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5aa818c60 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001322.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] South African User Community + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20South%20African%20User%20Community&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FB22A.1090900%40radiantnet.co.za%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001319.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001324.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community</H1> + <B>Rory Albertyn</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20South%20African%20User%20Community&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FB22A.1090900%40radiantnet.co.za%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community">rory.a at radiantnet.co.za + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 22:50:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Greetings, + +A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is +#mageia-za on freenode. + +I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to +request a mailing list and links on the website. + +~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001323.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001323.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7a9625307 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001323.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D32RLp2jvMWcFNL3RJmTHm4u92ZU5GikjQ8vki%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001301.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001300.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D32RLp2jvMWcFNL3RJmTHm4u92ZU5GikjQ8vki%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 23:07:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:20 PM, farfouille <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">farfouille64 at laposte.net</A>> wrote: + +(...) + +><i> So gmane doesn't seem to be a good solution, isn't it ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +I use Knode for USENET. This is a KDE program, but it works great and +no thread breaking. + + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001324.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001324.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..afe016480 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001324.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] South African User Community + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20South%20African%20User%20Community&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FB818.9020408%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001322.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20South%20African%20User%20Community&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FB818.9020408%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 23:16:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 26/09/2010 22:50, Rory Albertyn a écrit : +><i> Greetings, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A South African user community has started. The IRC channel is +</I>><i> #mageia-za on freenode. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would like to thank those of you who assisted and would like to +</I>><i> request a mailing list and links on the website. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ~ Rory (Gripen on Freenode) +</I>Hi + +Welcome here, + +If you want to contribute, you can register to +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</A> +There is actually no afrikaans translator, so if someone want to join +the team, he is welcome. +There is actually no localised mailing-list but I'm sure it will be done +in a few weeks, after the end of the beginning rush. + + +Marianne / Jehane + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001325.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001325.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..32db5d607 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001325.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3De7QpumfbCMOJ7e06_u3u4dBwyST%2BN0rxb20sU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001320.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001326.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>atilla ontas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3De7QpumfbCMOJ7e06_u3u4dBwyST%2BN0rxb20sU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">tarakbumba at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 23:29:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1325">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1325">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1325">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1325">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/26 francisco monge a <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hellfranciscodrake at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> El Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:03:07 +0200 +</I>><i> Sandro Cazzaniga <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>> escribió: +</I>>><i> Le Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:44:38 -0400, +</I>>><i> Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages +</I>>><i> > i prefer apt and deb pe +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It's a fork of Mandriva. Mandriva use rpm so mageia will probably use +</I>>><i> rpm too. +</I>>><i> Without it, we have to kill urpm* projects.... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can not even doubt that we must use packet types, the MCC is +</I>><i> designed to use and manage RPRDRAKE such packages. To change should +</I>><i> start from the ground, at least I guess. The advantages of RPR on the +</I>><i> DEB packages are not obvious but they exist and why many users prefer. +</I>><i> My apologies to those who think differently but almost absurd to +</I>><i> discuss this as the heart of this distro are RPM packages, its ease of +</I>><i> use and installation. +</I>><i> +</I> +INsteadf cussing rpm or deb package formats w should consider to use +apt-rpm like PclinuxOs does. Using synaptic and apt wolud be wonderful +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1325">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1325">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1325">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1325">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001326.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001326.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8f237c1e3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001326.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FBD8F.4060406%40eesti.ee%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001325.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001327.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Sander Lepik</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FBD8F.4060406%40eesti.ee%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">sander.lepik at eesti.ee + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 23:39:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001325.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1326">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1326">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1326">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1326">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> 27.09.2010 00:29, atilla ontas kirjutas: +><i> INsteadf cussing rpm or deb package formats w should consider to use +</I>><i> apt-rpm like PclinuxOs does. Using synaptic and apt wolud be wonderful +</I>Hey, + +can you please stop this deb vs rpm battle. urpm* is one of the reasons why Mandriva is what +it is, it's a brilliant tool and @ command line it kicks apt's butt. Dropping urpm* would be +pointless and i'm quite sure it won't happen. 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Given that Mandriva is already rpm-based, what +</I>><i> benefit could be derived from abandoning the existing build system and +</I>><i> urpmi? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >From everything I have read, neither system has a clear advantage over +</I>><i> the other, and the end result of using either is essentially the same. +</I>><i> I don't believe that changing to a deb-based system would provide any +</I>><i> significant benefit to justify the expense in terms of re-training +</I>><i> devs and creating a new build system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/79a98774/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1328">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1328">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1328">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1328">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001329.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001329.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c39762e4c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001329.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FB2D0.3030906%40isp.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001321.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001315.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>lorne schachter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FB2D0.3030906%40isp.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">lorne at isp.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 22:53:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1329">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1329">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1329">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1329">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> I've started using PCLinuxOS, so I've got some experience with +Synaptic and I like it, especially when it goes through and tells you +what else has to be installed when you do an upgrade/install. It can +sit on top of urpmi (I think, since I can do manual installs that show +up in Synaptic also), so it makes a good add-on. + +--------------- +Lorne Schachter +136 Washington Ave +Edison, NJ 08817 +(732)819-9176 +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lorne at isp.com</A> + + +On 09/26/2010 03:22 PM, paulo ricardo wrote: +><i> When the mandrake joined with Conectiva they will throw away the +</I>><i> package manager developed by the Brazilian company, the "Synaptic"! +</I>><i> Synaptic began to be adopted in debian systems, and these systems now +</I>><i> exceed the mandriva! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We should keep the center of control over the exchange through +</I>><i> Synaptic package manager and deploy a second interface for users with +</I>><i> less knowledge. +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/5e29458b/attachment.html> +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: lorne.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 232 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100926/5e29458b/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1329">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1329">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1329">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1329">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001330.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001330.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..263ef8dd2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/001330.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DSvMe08T%3D3a-M6yRPnJ6XxjerVzLqafWQQrKmp%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001328.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001296.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DSvMe08T%3D3a-M6yRPnJ6XxjerVzLqafWQQrKmp%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">clsdaniel at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1330">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1330">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1330">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1330">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I personally found no practical advantage of using apt-get vs urpmi, +while apt has many nice features urpmi is also solid and works +perfectly in most common cases, the only problem you may have is with +malformed packages or with erroneous dependency information, in which +case the only advantage of apt-get is the fact that Debian takes a lot +of care of having correct and working packages, which most RPM based +distros does too (you may get problems with 3th party repos but that +is another problem). + +Being a Mandriva fork we would logically stick with it's tools and +packaging system. + +Regards, +Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela + +On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Kristoffer Grundström +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Why not create a new format with the best of both worlds (if possible)? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> .mageia ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hoyt Duff skrev 2010-09-26 19:44: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:13 AM, RAVI KUMAR BALASUBRAMANIAM +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ravikumar17jan at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages +</I>><i> i prefer apt and deb personally +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can understand a personal preference, but why do you believe that +</I>><i> deb is superior to rpm? Given that Mandriva is already rpm-based, what +</I>><i> benefit could be derived from abandoning the existing build system and +</I>><i> urpmi? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >From everything I have read, neither system has a clear advantage over +</I>><i> the other, and the end result of using either is essentially the same. +</I>><i> I don't believe that changing to a deb-based system would provide any +</I>><i> significant benefit to justify the expense in terms of re-training +</I>><i> devs and creating a new build system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1330">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1330">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1330">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1330">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a2ad09f9d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 26 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>26 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 01:27:42 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A><A NAME="1322"> </A> +<I>Rory Albertyn +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1259"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001261.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1261"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1262"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A><A NAME="1258"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1269"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001270.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1270"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1271"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1275"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001293.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="1293"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1306"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1314"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001297.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1297"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1273"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1294"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1295"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1303"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1268"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1315"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1266"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1302"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1327"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1254"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1256"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1317"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1328"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1326"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1292"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001252.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1252"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1316"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1260"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A><A NAME="1307"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A><A NAME="1324"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1308"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1263"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1264"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1265"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1323"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A><A NAME="1304"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1255"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1318"> </A> +<I>Sascha Schneider +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1330"> </A> +<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1296"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1298"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1320"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1321"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001253.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="1253"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001267.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1267"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1272"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1274"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1299"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1305"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1310"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1311"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1312"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1257"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1300"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1301"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1309"> </A> +<I>isadora2010 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001325.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1325"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1313"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1329"> </A> +<I>lorne schachter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1319"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ca7502305 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 26 September 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>26 September 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 01:27:42 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001252.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1252"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001253.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="1253"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1254"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1255"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1256"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1257"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A><A NAME="1258"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1259"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1260"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001261.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1261"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1262"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1263"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1264"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1265"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1266"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001267.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1267"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1268"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1269"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001270.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1270"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1271"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1272"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1273"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1274"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1275"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1292"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001293.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="1293"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1294"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1295"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1296"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001297.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1297"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1298"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1299"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1300"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1301"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1302"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1303"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A><A NAME="1304"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1305"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1306"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A><A NAME="1307"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1309"> </A> +<I>isadora2010 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1308"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1310"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1311"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1313"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1312"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1314"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1318"> </A> +<I>Sascha Schneider +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1315"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1316"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1317"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1319"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1320"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A><A NAME="1322"> </A> +<I>Rory Albertyn +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1329"> </A> +<I>lorne schachter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1321"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1323"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A><A NAME="1324"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001325.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1325"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1326"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1327"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1328"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1330"> </A> +<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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[Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="1253"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1262"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1271"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001315.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1315"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1257"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1264"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001270.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1270"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1300"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1301"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1323"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001296.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1296"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001304.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A><A NAME="1304"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001307.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo, a ver si les gusta, falta pulirlo. +</A><A NAME="1307"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001313.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1313"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001314.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1314"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001329.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1329"> </A> +<I>lorne schachter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001321.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1321"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001267.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1267"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1269"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1272"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1273"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1275"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1292"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1294"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1299"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1302"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1303"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1305"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1306"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1308"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1310"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1311"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1312"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1318"> </A> +<I>Sascha Schneider +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1266"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1268"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001252.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1252"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1274"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1259"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1260"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001261.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1261"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1265"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1295"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001297.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1297"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001309.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1309"> </A> +<I>isadora2010 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001316.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1316"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001317.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1317"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001319.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1319"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001320.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1320"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001325.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1325"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001326.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1326"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001327.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1327"> </A> +<I>Kristoffer Grundström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001328.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1328"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001330.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1330"> </A> +<I>Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001322.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A><A NAME="1322"> </A> +<I>Rory Albertyn +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001324.html">[Mageia-discuss] South African User Community +</A><A NAME="1324"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001293.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="1293"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1254"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1255"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1256"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1263"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001298.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1298"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9ce05fb26 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100926/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,475 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 26 September 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>26 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 01:27:42 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 23:55:51 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285457262- --> +<LI><A HREF="001252.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1252"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285457262-01285521543- --> +<LI><A HREF="001274.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1274"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285476934- --> +<LI><A HREF="001253.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="1253"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<!--0 01285488258- --> +<LI><A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1254"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285488258-01285494090- --> +<LI><A HREF="001255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1255"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285488258-01285494090-01285498040- --> +<LI><A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1256"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285488258-01285494090-01285498040-01285515867- --> +<LI><A HREF="001263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1263"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285502372- --> +<LI><A HREF="001257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1257"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285502372-01285515940- --> +<LI><A HREF="001264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1264"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285502372-01285515940-01285520302- --> +<LI><A HREF="001270.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1270"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285502372-01285515940-01285520302-01285525259- --> +<LI><A HREF="001301.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1301"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285502372-01285515940-01285520302-01285525259-01285535240- --> +<LI><A HREF="001323.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1323"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285502372-01285515940-01285525216- --> +<LI><A HREF="001300.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1300"> </A> +<I>farfouille +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285506643- --> +<LI><A HREF="001258.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Aufml, gifts, Magiea, communication] Question about intro. text proposal for Aufml Administrators +</A><A NAME="1258"> </A> +<I>Benoit Audouard +</I> + +<!--0 01285507853- --> +<LI><A HREF="001259.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1259"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285507853-01285508654- --> +<LI><A HREF="001260.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1260"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285507853-01285508654-01285508971- --> +<LI><A HREF="001261.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1261"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285507853-01285516153- --> +<LI><A HREF="001265.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1265"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285509775- --> +<LI><A HREF="001262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1262"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285509775-01285520513- --> +<LI><A HREF="001271.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blog news - mageia-web creation +</A><A NAME="1271"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285516327- --> +<LI><A HREF="001266.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1266"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<!--0 01285519332- --> +<LI><A HREF="001267.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1267"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285519332-01285519898- --> +<LI><A HREF="001269.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1269"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285519332-01285519898-01285520575- --> +<LI><A HREF="001272.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1272"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285519332-01285521152- --> +<LI><A HREF="001273.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1273"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285519332-01285521152-01285522136- --> +<LI><A HREF="001275.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1275"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285522136-01285522969- --> +<LI><A HREF="001294.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1294"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285522136-01285522969-01285525926- --> +<LI><A HREF="001303.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1303"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285522136-01285522969-01285525926-01285529074- --> +<LI><A HREF="001312.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1312"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285522136-01285522969-01285525926-01285529074-01285532121- --> +<LI><A HREF="001318.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1318"> </A> +<I>Sascha Schneider +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285519332-01285521152-01285524930- --> +<LI><A HREF="001299.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1299"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<!--2 01285519332-01285521152-01285525760- --> +<LI><A HREF="001302.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1302"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285525760-01285527086- --> +<LI><A HREF="001308.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1308"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285525760-01285527086-01285528493- --> +<LI><A HREF="001311.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1311"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<!--3 01285519332-01285521152-01285525760-01285528459- --> +<LI><A HREF="001310.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1310"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01285519332-01285522426- --> +<LI><A HREF="001292.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1292"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285519332-01285522426-01285526035- --> +<LI><A HREF="001305.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1305"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285519332-01285522426-01285526035-01285526491- --> +<LI><A HREF="001306.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1306"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285519885- --> +<LI><A HREF="001268.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1268"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<!--0 01285522572- --> +<LI><A HREF="001293.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="1293"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--0 01285523078- --> +<LI><A HREF="001295.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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