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Of +course, it depends on how much free time each member has. + +Also you can add to that number the active devs/packagers, who aren't +triage team members, but who would triage bugs they hit. Also +previously Frederic Crozat read every bug report, even if he didn't +post/comment on all of them. + +So you could say the collective number of people actively triaging +bugs is 3-5... + +><i> Given the present size of the Mandriva user +</I>><i> community (and similar activeness of team members), by what factor would you +</I>><i> whish to increase the size of the team? +</I>><i> +</I> +As much as possible of course, and best if they're specialized in +different areas, Perl, Python, C++, Kernel... etc. Also if each one of +them uses a different DE. + +><i> There is also a question of motivation: it is so much more motivating to +</I>><i> work in a team where you can see the positive results of your work - if +</I>><i> bugzilla triage and and bug handling gets a more positive image (maybe that +</I>><i> is also an issue of internal PR), it will be easier to recruit volonteers - +</I>><i> here lies the principal reason why I only considered to, but did not, +</I>><i> respond to the "join the triage team" post in Mandriva. And motivation +</I>><i> becomes even more important in the Mageia volonteer-only environment - very +</I>><i> OK today, but tomorrow? +</I>><i> +</I> +Triage team always has volunteers rather than paid employees. Adam +Williamson, paid employee, was triaging bugs where Pacho Ramos and Udo +Rader were contributors (just names of the top of my head). You see, +for non-developers, like me, triaging bugs is a good/easier way to +contribute, (for example I am not a kernel hacker, I can't help with +kernel stuff in the distro). + +To conclude, it's not about how many people are triaging bugs as much +as it's about how many people are fixing them. A bigger triage team +without a higher number of devs/packagers fixing bugs isn't gonna +change the situation that much.... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1255">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1255">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1255">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1255">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |