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And comes with some "extras" like localized +</I>><i> > communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton, and +</I>><i> > turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme sucess, +</I>><i> > transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are guaranteed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest +</I>><i> to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed +</I>><i> and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with +</I>><i> so called local community representatives that have special rights or +</I>><i> influence. +</I> +Did you read the book "The starfish and the spider" by chance :) ? + +( if you didn't, you should, or try to see Max Spevack presentation +about Fedora organisation ) + +><i> As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some +</I>><i> local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the +</I>><i> opinions of the members of their community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives +</I>><i> as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their +</I>><i> communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant +</I>><i> information and manage their local forums, events etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there +</I>><i> should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on +</I>><i> the internet. +</I> +As anti democratic I will sound, I do not like much the idea of voting. + +Because this often end promoting segregation rather compromise, and +giving opinion rather than acting to make the change. In France, we have +basically 2 side each time, given our voting system, and this create +manichean situations, which then degenerate in friction. And minorities +views are mostly not considered. + +I also have bad memories of Debian discussion when there is stuff to +vote. + +More ever, i think we should better aim to a system where a minimal +number of choices will be imposed on others. Ie if we decide to use +openbox as default wm, we should have a easy way to produce another iso, +etc. + +Of course, default choices will have to be made, but this must be either +"easy" to change, or at least based on technical ground and numbers +rather than opinion and political aspects. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#756">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#756">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#756">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#756">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |