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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Guillaume Rousse <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:guillomovitch@gmail.com" target="_blank">guillomovitch@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+Le 06/03/2013 00:50, Reinout van Schouwen a écrit :<div><div class="h5"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+The Dutch tax service makes life difficult for (64-bit) Mageia users<br>
+because the tax filing program expects the i586 versions of libxext6 and<br>
+libsm6 to be around.<br>
+<br>
+The tax service claim on their web site that Ubuntu 12.x and Linux Mint<br>
+13 are supported. Could it be that they have these libraries<br>
+preinstalled on 64 bit platforms?<br>
+<br>
+Would it be possible to provide some kind of stub package that downloads<br>
+the program with the required dependencies, like Arch does? (<br>
+<a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/belastingdienst-ib2012/" target="_blank">https://aur.archlinux.org/<u></u>packages/belastingdienst-<u></u>ib2012/</a> )<br>
+</blockquote></div></div>
+Most binary-only i586 programs expects additional 32 bits libraires dependencies: skype, for instance. On a pure 64 bits systems, these libraries won&#39;t be installed, and they won&#39;t even be available directly, as long as 32 bits additional package sources are not configured...<br>
+
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we configure the 32 bits media by default</div><div>Having a 32 bits package installing this app and having the proper dependencies would make sense</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<br>
+I&#39;m effraid than endlessly adding 32bits dependencies on our 64 bits packages, such as we did with pulseaudio for skype case, or adding &#39;stub&#39; packages here, won&#39;t scale indefinitly to match every piece of softwares we can&#39;t distribute ourselves. First, they are exceptions to our &#39;self-containment&#39; package sources policy... Second, dependencies won&#39;t adress the package source configuration issue.<br>
+
+
+<br>
+So, what about adressing end users intelligence, and document all those issues on a central &#39;compatibility&#39; page on our wiki, instead of relying on such kind of hacks ?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+
+
+<br>
+-- <br>
+BOFH excuse #155:<br>
+<br>
+Dumb terminal<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Guillaume Rousse <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:guillomovitch@gmail.com" target="_blank">guillomovitch@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+Le 06/03/2013 00:50, Reinout van Schouwen a écrit :<div><div class="h5"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+The Dutch tax service makes life difficult for (64-bit) Mageia users<br>
+because the tax filing program expects the i586 versions of libxext6 and<br>
+libsm6 to be around.<br>
+<br>
+The tax service claim on their web site that Ubuntu 12.x and Linux Mint<br>
+13 are supported. Could it be that they have these libraries<br>
+preinstalled on 64 bit platforms?<br>
+<br>
+Would it be possible to provide some kind of stub package that downloads<br>
+the program with the required dependencies, like Arch does? (<br>
+<a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/belastingdienst-ib2012/" target="_blank">https://aur.archlinux.org/<u></u>packages/belastingdienst-<u></u>ib2012/</a> )<br>
+</blockquote></div></div>
+Most binary-only i586 programs expects additional 32 bits libraires dependencies: skype, for instance. On a pure 64 bits systems, these libraries won&#39;t be installed, and they won&#39;t even be available directly, as long as 32 bits additional package sources are not configured...<br>
+
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we configure the 32 bits media by default</div><div>Having a 32 bits package installing this app and having the proper dependencies would make sense</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<br>
+I&#39;m effraid than endlessly adding 32bits dependencies on our 64 bits packages, such as we did with pulseaudio for skype case, or adding &#39;stub&#39; packages here, won&#39;t scale indefinitly to match every piece of softwares we can&#39;t distribute ourselves. First, they are exceptions to our &#39;self-containment&#39; package sources policy... Second, dependencies won&#39;t adress the package source configuration issue.<br>
+
+
+<br>
+So, what about adressing end users intelligence, and document all those issues on a central &#39;compatibility&#39; page on our wiki, instead of relying on such kind of hacks ?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+
+
+<br>
+-- <br>
+BOFH excuse #155:<br>
+<br>
+Dumb terminal<br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, AL13N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alien@rmail.be" target="_blank">alien@rmail.be</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+&gt;<br><div class="im">
+&gt; While I appreciate the intention, from a user PoV, those UUIDs mean<br>
+&gt; b***** all.  It would be really nice if, when they are first named, it<br>
+&gt; was possible to allocate a &quot;nickname&quot; for want of a better term.<br>
+<br>
+</div>if you use it, filesystems also have label functionalities, which iinm are<br>
+shown in dolphin.<br></blockquote><div><br><div>Yeah, I&#39;m not a big fan of UUIDs either so I tend to use labels instead.<br></div><div>I always partition and format using command-line tools in the Rescue<br>System. If you do that, you can add the labels yourself. For example:<br>
+<br></div><div># mkfs.ext4 -m 1 -L mgaroot /dev/sda1<br></div><div># mkswap -L swap /dev/sda2<br></div><div># mkfs.ext4 -m 0 -L home /dev/sda3<br><br></div><div>The -m parameters above specifies the percentage reserved for the superuser.<br>
+</div><div>the -L parameters are the filesystem labels. After that, reboot to the installer<br>and choose Custom Partitioning, assign your pre-existing partitions and be<br>sure _untick_ the [ ] Format boxes then continue installing as usual.<br>
+<br></div><div>After the installation, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst replacing each<br></div><div>UUID=&lt;blahblahblah&gt; with LABEL=&lt;label&gt;. For example:<br></div><div><br></div><div>root=LABEL=mgaroot (and) resume=LABEL=swap<br>
+<br></div><div>Similarly in /etc/fstab, you can have entries like:<br></div><div><br></div><div>LABEL=mgaroot  /     ext4  relatime  1 1<br>LABEL=swap     swap  swap  defaults  0 0<br><br></div><div></div><div>So the &#39;nickname&#39; feature you request is available with a little pre-install<br>
+preparation and post-install config file editing.<br><br></div><div>Hope this helps -- RJ<br><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, AL13N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:alien@rmail.be" target="_blank">alien@rmail.be</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+&gt;<br><div class="im">
+&gt; While I appreciate the intention, from a user PoV, those UUIDs mean<br>
+&gt; b***** all.  It would be really nice if, when they are first named, it<br>
+&gt; was possible to allocate a &quot;nickname&quot; for want of a better term.<br>
+<br>
+</div>if you use it, filesystems also have label functionalities, which iinm are<br>
+shown in dolphin.<br></blockquote><div><br><div>Yeah, I&#39;m not a big fan of UUIDs either so I tend to use labels instead.<br></div><div>I always partition and format using command-line tools in the Rescue<br>System. If you do that, you can add the labels yourself. For example:<br>
+<br></div><div># mkfs.ext4 -m 1 -L mgaroot /dev/sda1<br></div><div># mkswap -L swap /dev/sda2<br></div><div># mkfs.ext4 -m 0 -L home /dev/sda3<br><br></div><div>The -m parameters above specifies the percentage reserved for the superuser.<br>
+</div><div>the -L parameters are the filesystem labels. After that, reboot to the installer<br>and choose Custom Partitioning, assign your pre-existing partitions and be<br>sure _untick_ the [ ] Format boxes then continue installing as usual.<br>
+<br></div><div>After the installation, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst replacing each<br></div><div>UUID=&lt;blahblahblah&gt; with LABEL=&lt;label&gt;. For example:<br></div><div><br></div><div>root=LABEL=mgaroot (and) resume=LABEL=swap<br>
+<br></div><div>Similarly in /etc/fstab, you can have entries like:<br></div><div><br></div><div>LABEL=mgaroot  /     ext4  relatime  1 1<br>LABEL=swap     swap  swap  defaults  0 0<br><br></div><div></div><div>So the &#39;nickname&#39; feature you request is available with a little pre-install<br>
+preparation and post-install config file editing.<br><br></div><div>Hope this helps -- RJ<br><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>The Dutch tax service makes life difficult for (64-bit) Mageia users because the tax filing program expects the i586 versions of libxext6 and libsm6 to be around.</div><div><br></div>
+
+<div style>The tax service claim on their web site that Ubuntu 12.x and Linux Mint 13 are supported. Could it be that they have these libraries preinstalled on 64 bit platforms?</div><div><br></div><div>Would it be possible to provide some kind of stub package that downloads the program with the required dependencies, like Arch does? ( <a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/belastingdienst-ib2012/">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/belastingdienst-ib2012/</a> )<br clear="all">
+
+<div><br></div><div style>regards,</div><div style><br></div>-- <br>Reinout van Schouwen<br><br></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>The Dutch tax service makes life difficult for (64-bit) Mageia users because the tax filing program expects the i586 versions of libxext6 and libsm6 to be around.</div><div><br></div>
+
+<div style>The tax service claim on their web site that Ubuntu 12.x and Linux Mint 13 are supported. Could it be that they have these libraries preinstalled on 64 bit platforms?</div><div><br></div><div>Would it be possible to provide some kind of stub package that downloads the program with the required dependencies, like Arch does? ( <a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/belastingdienst-ib2012/">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/belastingdienst-ib2012/</a> )<br clear="all">
+
+<div><br></div><div style>regards,</div><div style><br></div>-- <br>Reinout van Schouwen<br><br></div></div>
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