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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:11, Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+Hi there<br>
+<br>
+Following discussion about technical specifications, here is an<br>
+interesting item: systemd<br>
+Bug report to follow discussion and history:<br>
+<a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120</a><br>
+<br>
+We need points of view, the way we could integrate it if we decide to<br>
+go, planning (I guess it would need to start now to be full ready for<br>
+final release)<br>
+<br>
+Comments, proposals, shout ?<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>If nobody objects, I could help with that. Mandriva certainly gave a large experience on how to integrate systemd into the system without killing traditional sysvinit alternative.<br><br>It would also be extremely interested to have native systemd services which use most of systemd features (like sound and alsa scripts, which we discussed with Colin and Andrey Borzenkov some months ago but never got to implement properly).<br clear="all">
+
+</div></div><br>-- <br>Eugeni Dodonov<br><a href="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/" target="_blank">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</a><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:11, Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+Hi there<br>
+<br>
+Following discussion about technical specifications, here is an<br>
+interesting item: systemd<br>
+Bug report to follow discussion and history:<br>
+<a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120</a><br>
+<br>
+We need points of view, the way we could integrate it if we decide to<br>
+go, planning (I guess it would need to start now to be full ready for<br>
+final release)<br>
+<br>
+Comments, proposals, shout ?<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>If nobody objects, I could help with that. Mandriva certainly gave a large experience on how to integrate systemd into the system without killing traditional sysvinit alternative.<br><br>It would also be extremely interested to have native systemd services which use most of systemd features (like sound and alsa scripts, which we discussed with Colin and Andrey Borzenkov some months ago but never got to implement properly).<br clear="all">
+
+</div></div><br>-- <br>Eugeni Dodonov<br><a href="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/" target="_blank">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</a><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:38, Balcaen John <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mikala@mageia.org">mikala@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+On Tuesday 12 July 2011 09:15:18 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:<br>
+[...]<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; &gt; Comments, proposals, shout ?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If nobody objects, I could help with that. Mandriva certainly gave a large<br>
+&gt; experience on how to integrate systemd into the system without killing<br>
+&gt; traditional sysvinit alternative.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>I don&#39;t have any objections ;o)<br>
+Also since you work alot on it , why do we have some systemd files in<br>
+initscripts ? (because i noticed that thoses files were moved  back to systemd<br>
+package)<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>Each package is free to provide its .service files for systemd, they are not tied to any development libraries or headers and such. In case of initscripts, there are (were?) many mandriva-specifics tricks which used to run on startup via rc.sysinit and similar approaches, so initscripts package looked as the best place to put them at the time I think.<br>
+
+<br></div></div>-- <br>Eugeni Dodonov<br><a href="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/" target="_blank">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</a><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:38, Balcaen John <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mikala@mageia.org">mikala@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+On Tuesday 12 July 2011 09:15:18 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:<br>
+[...]<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; &gt; Comments, proposals, shout ?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If nobody objects, I could help with that. Mandriva certainly gave a large<br>
+&gt; experience on how to integrate systemd into the system without killing<br>
+&gt; traditional sysvinit alternative.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>I don&#39;t have any objections ;o)<br>
+Also since you work alot on it , why do we have some systemd files in<br>
+initscripts ? (because i noticed that thoses files were moved  back to systemd<br>
+package)<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>Each package is free to provide its .service files for systemd, they are not tied to any development libraries or headers and such. In case of initscripts, there are (were?) many mandriva-specifics tricks which used to run on startup via rc.sysinit and similar approaches, so initscripts package looked as the best place to put them at the time I think.<br>
+
+<br></div></div>-- <br>Eugeni Dodonov<br><a href="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/" target="_blank">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</a><br>