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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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Also easy setup and forget was in my mind and I was pleased by its plenty of packages. I will always look at Linux from the software developer point of view though...<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/17f2d21a/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/17f2d21a/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b2d93fd41 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/17f2d21a/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Hi,<br><br>I am a Windows/MS based web apps and software developer.<br>When I have chosen Mandriva (about 10 years ago) for my home PC, my criteria was related to usability and reliability, and the community was a very important criterion. Also easy setup and forget was in my mind and I was pleased by its plenty of packages. I will always look at Linux from the software developer point of view though...<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/2ad922d9/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/2ad922d9/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..27eb33bd7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/2ad922d9/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +As long as you want to install all the updates,<br>and even if your connection fluctuates and stops during the download, the order doesn't matter much.<br>If you can't download all the packages at the first attempt, you just have to download the packages in several steps.<br> +<br>Rare are the cases when you urge to update the smallest package and can't wait for the others to be downloaded.<br>And when that's the case, you just have to select the interesting package first, install it and then download the other packages.<br> +<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/30 Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +André Machado <<a href="mailto:afmachado@dcemail.com">afmachado@dcemail.com</a>> schrieb am 2010-09-30<br> +<div class="im">> I'm asking if is possible "force"<br> +> or "make" URPMI create this "groups", elect the smaller one and download<br> +> it, from the smaller to bigger package, install it and download the second<br> +> smaller package group in this same order.<br> +</div>The question is: why?<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +Oliver<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/2ad922d9/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/2ad922d9/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..27eb33bd7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/2ad922d9/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@ +As long as you want to install all the updates,<br>and even if your connection fluctuates and stops during the download, the order doesn't matter much.<br>If you can't download all the packages at the first attempt, you just have to download the packages in several steps.<br> +<br>Rare are the cases when you urge to update the smallest package and can't wait for the others to be downloaded.<br>And when that's the case, you just have to select the interesting package first, install it and then download the other packages.<br> +<br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/30 Oliver Burger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +André Machado <<a href="mailto:afmachado@dcemail.com">afmachado@dcemail.com</a>> schrieb am 2010-09-30<br> +<div class="im">> I'm asking if is possible "force"<br> +> or "make" URPMI create this "groups", elect the smaller one and download<br> +> it, from the smaller to bigger package, install it and download the second<br> +> smaller package group in this same order.<br> +</div>The question is: why?<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +Oliver<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/48c12811/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/48c12811/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a23853832 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/48c12811/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/30 Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 13:56 +0300, Marek Laane a écrit :<br> +<div class="im">> I rather think that if at all the survey should be an option not<br> +> something<br> +> you inevitably get - something for people who feel they are ready to<br> +> contribute, give back; otherwise it'd be just a nuisance.<br> +<br> +</div>Of course. IIRC there was a checkbox "do not answer" on Mandriva survey.<br> +I think I remember that fcrozat told me there was a problem on small<br> +screen as the checkbox was hidden, but that was clearly a bug.<br> +<br> +Anyway, I think that without server side interface, this will not work,<br> +and before asking who our users are, we need to have softwares and<br> +users :)<br> +<br> +So the first time survey will likely disappear for now ( and maybe<br> +forever, depending on the need and suggestions of marketing ).<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +--<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">Michael Scherer<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah but what I meant was that Mandriva shows survey and lets user to decline. That I called nuisance. IMHO much better is to let user decide if s/he wants to take it at all, e.g. having on welcome screen "Let me take survey" or something.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div> </div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/48c12811/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/48c12811/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a23853832 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/48c12811/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/30 Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 13:56 +0300, Marek Laane a écrit :<br> +<div class="im">> I rather think that if at all the survey should be an option not<br> +> something<br> +> you inevitably get - something for people who feel they are ready to<br> +> contribute, give back; otherwise it'd be just a nuisance.<br> +<br> +</div>Of course. IIRC there was a checkbox "do not answer" on Mandriva survey.<br> +I think I remember that fcrozat told me there was a problem on small<br> +screen as the checkbox was hidden, but that was clearly a bug.<br> +<br> +Anyway, I think that without server side interface, this will not work,<br> +and before asking who our users are, we need to have softwares and<br> +users :)<br> +<br> +So the first time survey will likely disappear for now ( and maybe<br> +forever, depending on the need and suggestions of marketing ).<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +--<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">Michael Scherer<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah but what I meant was that Mandriva shows survey and lets user to decline. That I called nuisance. IMHO much better is to let user decide if s/he wants to take it at all, e.g. having on welcome screen "Let me take survey" or something.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div> </div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/491bd036/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/491bd036/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..14e3e2e97 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/491bd036/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/30 Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 13:38 +0300, atilla ontas a écrit :<br> +> 2010/9/30 Robert Xu <<a href="mailto:robxu9@gmail.com">robxu9@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +> > On Sep 30, 2010, at 5:23, Michael Scherer <<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>> wrote:<br> +> ><br> +> >> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 20:53 -0400, Ireneusz Gierlach a écrit :<br> +> >>> I just hope there won't be a survey when you first install, because if<br> +> >>> you have no internet it doesn't let you do anything. You have to like go<br> +> >>> to console and do not cool stuff. I guess as long as it is not invasive<br> +> >>> it will be fine.<br> +> >><br> +> >> Then we need to fix it so it cope with no internet access, not disable<br> +> >> it.<br> +> ><br> +> > Maybe the first time connected to the internet the survey should appear?<br> +> ><br> +> > -- later, Robert Xu<br> +><br> +> Why we' re talking about a survey? Do we need this? We are not a<br> +> company and think about customer happiness. I thought this thread is<br> +> about a informational and/or assistance application for newbies.<br> +<br> +You do not have to be a company to want to know who use your software.<br> +And I think knowing who use the software can be important in term of<br> +communication. And that's the first step toward listening users.<br> +<br> +Now, a automatic survey as done by mdv may not be the best way for us,<br> +but this should not be ditched based on "we are not a company, we do not<br> +need to know who us the software".<br> +<br> +<br></blockquote><div>I rather think that if at all the survey should be an option not something you inevitably get - something for people who feel they are ready to contribute, give back; otherwise it'd be just a nuisance.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<br> +--<br> +<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/491bd036/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/491bd036/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..14e3e2e97 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100930/491bd036/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,40 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/30 Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 13:38 +0300, atilla ontas a écrit :<br> +> 2010/9/30 Robert Xu <<a href="mailto:robxu9@gmail.com">robxu9@gmail.com</a>>:<br> +> > On Sep 30, 2010, at 5:23, Michael Scherer <<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>> wrote:<br> +> ><br> +> >> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 20:53 -0400, Ireneusz Gierlach a écrit :<br> +> >>> I just hope there won't be a survey when you first install, because if<br> +> >>> you have no internet it doesn't let you do anything. You have to like go<br> +> >>> to console and do not cool stuff. I guess as long as it is not invasive<br> +> >>> it will be fine.<br> +> >><br> +> >> Then we need to fix it so it cope with no internet access, not disable<br> +> >> it.<br> +> ><br> +> > Maybe the first time connected to the internet the survey should appear?<br> +> ><br> +> > -- later, Robert Xu<br> +><br> +> Why we' re talking about a survey? Do we need this? We are not a<br> +> company and think about customer happiness. I thought this thread is<br> +> about a informational and/or assistance application for newbies.<br> +<br> +You do not have to be a company to want to know who use your software.<br> +And I think knowing who use the software can be important in term of<br> +communication. And that's the first step toward listening users.<br> +<br> +Now, a automatic survey as done by mdv may not be the best way for us,<br> +but this should not be ditched based on "we are not a company, we do not<br> +need to know who us the software".<br> +<br> +<br></blockquote><div>I rather think that if at all the survey should be an option not something you inevitably get - something for people who feel they are ready to contribute, give back; otherwise it'd be just a nuisance.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<br> +--<br> +<font color="#888888">Michael Scherer<br> +</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br> |