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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 18/10/12 21:06 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 17/10/12 23:49 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:36:47AM +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It does not seem to provide a replacement for pm-suspend-hybrid.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That will likely be in a newer systemd once they figured out what to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> call it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah being discussed now. As this is now in-kernel as of 3.6, systemd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will support this within a very short time frame.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it equivalent?
+</I>&gt;<i> Can the kernel hibernate support write a compressed and encrypted image to swap?
+</I>&gt;<i> Does it allow showing a splash for suspend progress?
+</I>
+I'm not 100% sure on all the implementation specifics here so I won't
+pretend otherwise.
+
+I'd hope that as a blessed kernel implementation that it would be clever
+and sensible here, but who knows!
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And what about all the hooks that used to be run by pm-utils?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How will they be run now?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not 100% sure but as mentioned in another thread I think many of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quirks are likely outdated. Certainly graphical quirks that used to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> present on my hardware have not been needed for many years since KMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> came along. So this is likely an opportunity to tidy it up and get rid
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the kruft.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But overall some of the quirks are likely still needed, so I've started
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a discussion upstream with a view to gathering feedback from how other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distros are planning to handle this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not only about video quirks.
+</I>
+Yeah, so the video quirks should be mostly useless now.
+
+I spoke to some Arch and Fedora folks and they've all had very few
+issues with the switch in this regard.
+
+See reply to my upstream question here:
+<A HREF="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6937">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6937</A>
+
+&gt;<i> This one is required to forbid messing with the suspend image in swap by
+</I>&gt;<i> rebooting in another kernel:
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01bootloader
+</I>
+I'm not sure of this one specifically - will try and clarify.
+
+&gt;<i> There may be some other useful ones, notifying apps about resume, like:
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit
+</I>
+
+Yeah those kind of ones should just be migrated I think.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+
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