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<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 18/10/12 21:06 did gyre and gimble:
><i> Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> writes:
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 17/10/12 23:49 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>>><i> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:36:47AM +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:
</I>>>>><i> It does not seem to provide a replacement for pm-suspend-hybrid.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> That will likely be in a newer systemd once they figured out what to
</I>>>><i> call it.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Yeah being discussed now. As this is now in-kernel as of 3.6, systemd
</I>>><i> will support this within a very short time frame.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Is it equivalent?
</I>><i> Can the kernel hibernate support write a compressed and encrypted image to swap?
</I>><i> Does it allow showing a splash for suspend progress?
</I>
I'm not 100% sure on all the implementation specifics here so I won't
pretend otherwise.
I'd hope that as a blessed kernel implementation that it would be clever
and sensible here, but who knows!
>>>><i> And what about all the hooks that used to be run by pm-utils?
</I>>>>><i> How will they be run now?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Not 100% sure but as mentioned in another thread I think many of the
</I>>><i> quirks are likely outdated. Certainly graphical quirks that used to be
</I>>><i> present on my hardware have not been needed for many years since KMS
</I>>><i> came along. So this is likely an opportunity to tidy it up and get rid
</I>>><i> of the kruft.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> But overall some of the quirks are likely still needed, so I've started
</I>>><i> a discussion upstream with a view to gathering feedback from how other
</I>>><i> distros are planning to handle this.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> That's not only about video quirks.
</I>
Yeah, so the video quirks should be mostly useless now.
I spoke to some Arch and Fedora folks and they've all had very few
issues with the switch in this regard.
See reply to my upstream question here:
<A HREF="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6937">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6937</A>
><i> This one is required to forbid messing with the suspend image in swap by
</I>><i> rebooting in another kernel:
</I>><i> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01bootloader
</I>
I'm not sure of this one specifically - will try and clarify.
><i> There may be some other useful ones, notifying apps about resume, like:
</I>><i> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit
</I>
Yeah those kind of ones should just be migrated I think.
Col
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