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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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| committer | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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I've been working pretty closely with the Fedora people in +getting +pyp2rpm working. Pyp2rpm just went 1.0.0 and there was a mageia module +for it, but it looks like that someone else is going to have to maintain it. + +Some parting words + +1) You really need to do a better job communicating with new people. I +spent +several weeks just waiting for someone to contact me, and it's been a pain +trying to in touch with the community. + +2) I ended up packaging cinnamon for my own amusement. I've gotten it to +work quite nicely on my machine. One thing that annoys me on in my day +job is spending more effort trying to get something done than to just do it. + +3) Something that you have to realize about volunteers is that volunteers +are +volunteers. In my day job, I get paid a large amount of money so that I do +what the boss tells me to do. Unless you have that sort of money, there is +no reason for my to take orders from you. You might be able to persuade me +to do something by being nice and flattery always works, but remember that +I'm a volunteer, and you aren't the only project I can spend my time on. + +4) I like to program because it's fun. I like packaging stuff because it's +interesting. If you make it so that it isn't fun and you don't pay me $$$$, +then there is no reason to do it. At work, I have to take orders. Boss +tells +me to do something and I don't do it, I get fired and I lose my $$$$. +Unless +you are paying me, there's no reason why I have to listen to you. + +5) One reason I wanted to package cinnamon is that the cinnamon people +are *nice people*. There is this annoying bug on my machine, but since they +are nice, I might just pull out the debugger and fix it. The problem with +not +being *nice* is that if you push away newbies, then you don't have people +to +work on these things. + +6) The big reason I haven't posted before is that I like to code. I hate +politics. +I hate mailing list flames. I hate discussions. I just want to make +things work +on my machine. I'll endure politics, mailing list flames, long winded +discussions +if there is a reason for it. Rather than spending 12 hours trying to +discussion +whether to package cinnamon, I just rolled up my sleeves and I did it. +It's not +ready for "prime time" because there is an annoying bug involved with it, +but I was +planning on rolling up my sleeves and fixing that bug. + +Anyway, gnome is in a death spiral + +no volunteers -> more politics -> fewer volunteers -> even more politics + +I've used Mageia long enough so that it would be a shame if it went into +the +same death spiral. But it's not my problem. I just want to have fun and +code. + +Coding is fun. Office politics isn't. I'm looking for somewhere that I +can +code and play without office politics. 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