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Yet Jack2 is +</I>><i> > simply another implementation in C++ of the Jack protocol, and not a +</I>><i> > newer version (as the official website also states clearly: +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/Q_differenc_jack1_jack2">http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/Q_differenc_jack1_jack2</A> ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Plus I had a very annoying bug with Ardour when using Jack2, and people +</I>><i> > on Ardour mailing list told me it was a known issue with Jack2 (both +</I>><i> > Ardour and Jack2 were installed from the Mageia 2 packages). I compiled +</I>><i> > Jack1, and it indeed fixed the issue. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So I am thinking on proposing a spec for Jack1. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But then I have questions: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1/ How should I name this package? The jack2 package is named "jackit" +</I>><i> > and I have no idea where you got that from (I guess this is a shorter +</I>><i> > name for "Jack Audio Connection Kit", but should we really change +</I>><i> > package names this way? +</I>><i> > It is not that long). The official alternative +</I>><i> > name of Jack2 is "jackdmp" (see README here: +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2">https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2</A> ). I saw nowhere else this "jackit" +</I>><i> > naming. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> We inherit this from Mandrake : in the early years of Mandrake a jack +</I>><i> package already existed but it had nothing to do with JACK (Jack Audio +</I>><i> Connexion Kit) : it was a console frontend for cd rippers, still +</I>><i> provided in Mageia... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When JACK was imported into Mandrake it had to be given an other name... +</I>><i> so jackit !!! +</I>><i> There was a tonic controversy on Mandrake forum about this in 2003 or +</I>><i> 2004 year. +</I>><i> Mandrake and then Mandriva and and then Mageia are the only +</I>><i> distributions calling JACK package "jackit" .... +</I>><i> > So I am questioning the naming of this existing package, and would like +</I>><i> > to propose some rename along with a new name for a Jack1 package. +</I>><i> > Maybe simply "jack1" and "jack2"? Or "jack" and "jackdmp"? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 2/ How should the virtual dependency be named? +</I>><i> > The existing "jackit" spec provides a "jackit-devel" and a +</I>><i> "libjack-devel". +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I think that none of the names are really fit IMO. First jackit for the +</I>><i> > same reason as before (I don't see where this name comes from), also +</I>><i> > libjack (and the -devel suffix) because this kit is not *only* a library +</I>><i> > (there are also the jackd daemon, tools, etc.). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I propose simply "jack" as virtual package name. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > How does this sound? +</I>><i> > Thanks. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Jehan +</I>><i> Not simple because of this context ... +</I>><i> If you want to call JACK jack you need to remove first the existing jack +</I>><i> from the repo, and to modify the spec for every package requiring jackit +</I>><i> now, to make them require jack if it is the new package name for JACK . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Post Scriptum : Reading this I don't know if my explanation is clear +</I>><i> enough ... +</I>><i> A key to understand what I wrote : +</I>><i> "jack" is the name of a package (whatever its content is) +</I>><i> "jackit" is the name of a package +</I>><i> "JACK" is the recursive acronym (Jack Audio Connexion Kit) of the +</I>><i> software you are talking about +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Ok I understood the deal. +I would personally prefer even a longer package name like +jack-audio-connection-kit. Mageia would gain from having clearer naming. +Especially if we add the Jack1 alternative. + +Now if this is a big deal, and it generates a controversy again, it is not +that a big deal. The question thus is: how do I call Jack1 package then? +And can I say that this new package "Provides: jackit" so that it works as +an alternative to Jack2 (for instance for Ardour)? +Thanks. + +Jehan +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20121104/1143e595/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="019751.html">[Mageia-dev] Jack1 package missing +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="019755.html">[Mageia-dev] Jack1 package missing +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#19754">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#19754">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#19754">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#19754">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |