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+ <B>Christian Lohmaier</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 8 01:06:06 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Olav, *,
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+On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;network configurations (lacks UI).
+</I>
+lacks UI part is probably the most problematic issue today.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;NetworkManager [...]
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Approximatively 50% of those problems come from the coexistence with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakxtools and sysinit, conflicting for the control of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interface, rather than actual problems in NM code.
+</I>
+Doesn't match my personal problems where I can only successfully setup
+a connection when I use a combination of both, because of the
+abovementioned lack of UI for &quot;basic&quot; (or better: essential)
+configuration item, namely setting CRDA comain.
+
+&gt;<i> Ah ok, but shouldn't that all be fixed now that the patch is back to
+</I>&gt;<i> make NetworkManager properly ignore stuff that it should ignore?
+</I>
+Nope. Network manager needs to have the featues that are currently
+lacking, but that net-applet did provide.
+
+* Setting CRDA domain
+* Allowing to setup static IP before setting up a connection with DHCP first
+* Leave hostname alone unless explicitly asked for changing it. (there
+is no option to disable it, so when using dhcp NM will change your
+hostname when the router suggests one, rendering your x-session
+unusable for administrative tools that then no longer can connect to
+the user's X-session)
+* allow to configure wireless netorks without those networks being
+available. You cannot preconfigure an access point without it actually
+be in reach. With preconfiguring I mainly mean assign the
+passphrase/authentification options.
+
+&gt;<i> But drakxtools was
+</I>&gt;<i> more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced,
+</I>&gt;<i> more documentation, etc.
+</I>
+NM in the beta iso was a horrible experience, and now it halfway works
+in the release, but my sympathies still are with drakxtools..
+
+&gt;<i> All bugs above are really server like things. I thought drakxtools still
+</I>&gt;<i> was better at setting up Wifi; and I think that is more important to get
+</I>&gt;<i> right than vlan/bridging/etc.
+</I>
+I absolutely agree. drakxtools didn't have any problem with open, WEP,
+WPA, be it with pre-shared keys or enterprise-style. Adding a VPN
+tunnel was easy as well (apart from the bug that the tun-device had to
+be added to the firewall manually, thankfully only once).
+
+Only bug with netapplet/drakx tools is that it doesn't properly handle
+static IP configuration after having connected to a dhcp network. Have
+to manually disconnect and reconnect to make use of static IP. Didn't
+have chance yet to check with NM...
+
+ciao
+Christian
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