[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

Fri Jun 8 01:06:06 CEST 2012

Hi Olav, *,
+
+On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl> wrote:
+> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+>> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit :
+>> >Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
+>> >network configurations (lacks UI).
+
+lacks UI part is probably the most problematic issue today.
+
+>> >However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
+>> >NetworkManager [...]
+
+>> Approximatively 50% of those problems come from the coexistence with
+>> drakxtools and sysinit, conflicting for the control of the
+>> interface, rather than actual problems in NM code.
+
+Doesn't match my personal problems where I can only successfully setup
+a connection when I use a combination of both, because of the
+abovementioned lack of UI for "basic" (or better: essential)
+configuration item, namely setting CRDA comain.
+
+> Ah ok, but shouldn't that all be fixed now that the patch is back to
+> make NetworkManager properly ignore stuff that it should ignore?
+
+Nope. Network manager needs to have the featues that are currently
+lacking, but that net-applet did provide.
+
+* Setting CRDA domain
+* Allowing to setup static IP before setting up a connection with DHCP first
+* Leave hostname alone unless explicitly asked for changing it. (there
+is no option to disable it, so when using dhcp NM will change your
+hostname when the router suggests one, rendering your x-session
+unusable for administrative tools that then no longer can connect to
+the user's X-session)
+* allow to configure wireless netorks without those networks being
+available. You cannot preconfigure an access point without it actually
+be in reach. With preconfiguring I mainly mean assign the
+passphrase/authentification options.
+
+> But drakxtools was
+> more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced,
+> more documentation, etc.
+
+NM in the beta iso was a horrible experience, and now it halfway works
+in the release, but my sympathies still are with drakxtools..
+
+> All bugs above are really server like things. I thought drakxtools still
+> was better at setting up Wifi; and I think that is more important to get
+> right than vlan/bridging/etc.
+
+I absolutely agree. drakxtools didn't have any problem with open, WEP,
+WPA, be it with pre-shared keys or enterprise-style. Adding a VPN
+tunnel was easy as well (apart from the bug that the tun-device had to
+be added to the firewall manually, thankfully only once).
+
+Only bug with netapplet/drakx tools is that it doesn't properly handle
+static IP configuration after having connected to a dhcp network. Have
+to manually disconnect and reconnect to make use of static IP. Didn't
+have chance yet to check with NM...
+
+ciao
+Christian
+