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+ <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jun 6 01:04:05 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 06/05/2012 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to wait a year and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hope that other distributions solve the bugs?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Approximatively 50% of those problems come from the coexistence with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakxtools and sysinit, conflicting for the control of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interface, rather than actual problems in NM code. Waiting for them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to magically disapear won't help much...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah ok, but shouldn't that all be fixed now that the patch is back to
+</I>&gt;<i> make NetworkManager properly ignore stuff that it should ignore?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I tink it is _lot_ easier even for drakxtools to write a file into
+/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections that to mess with ifcfg-* files.
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+And NM is the only sane way to have, in my case, 4 or 5 WiFi configurations
+for the same interface and let it pick the right one depending on my
+location. It is just marvelous, and without any ifcfg-* file rewriting
+on the fly.
+
+And I suppose it can also be done, but I never managed to do without NM:
+let my linux in the far corner of the house boot and connect to wifi
+without any user logged in...
+
+So in my case, a big +1 for NM and kill all sysvinit files for network.
+
+I acknowledge that I never tried to do bonding with NM, for example...
+
+&gt;<i> meaning: only look for USE_NM/NM_CONTROLLED (I forgot which), not demand
+</I>&gt;<i> more than that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But ideally it would be nice if there was only one way to setup a
+</I>&gt;<i> network.. and for me that means NetworkManager :). But drakxtools was
+</I>&gt;<i> more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced,
+</I>&gt;<i> more documentation, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool possibilities with just NetworkManager:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (all one bugzilla.gnome.org, seem duplicates, but there is a bug per
+</I>&gt;<i> product, so bug for maybe gnome-control-center, gnome-shell, etc)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 677144: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677145: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677146: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677147: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677148: network: make sure vlans are handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677149: network: make sure vlans are handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677150: network: make sure ipoib is handled
+</I>&gt;<i> 677151: network: make sure ipoib is handled
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had to lookup what ipoib (IP over infiniband) meant, article is here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html">http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME shell specific:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142:">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142:</A> multiple nics (NM can
+</I>&gt;<i> handle it, GNOME shell not)
+</I>&gt;<i> 677142: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
+</I>&gt;<i> 677143: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note: The support is in NetworkManager. The GNOME bugs are to ensure it
+</I>&gt;<i> is shown/exposed in the UI properly. Not sure if available in stuff like
+</I>&gt;<i> KNetworkManager, but NM is not specific to GNOME.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All bugs above are really server like things. I thought drakxtools still
+</I>&gt;<i> was better at setting up Wifi; and I think that is more important to get
+</I>&gt;<i> right than vlan/bridging/etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt; \ Winter is coming...
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