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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications</H1>
<B>JA Magallón</B>
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<I>Wed Jun 6 01:04:05 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 06/05/2012 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
><i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
</I>>><i> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit :
</I>>>><i> Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
</I>>>><i> network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6.
</I>>>><i> However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
</I>>>><i> NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to wait a year and
</I>>>><i> hope that other distributions solve the bugs?
</I>>><i> Approximatively 50% of those problems come from the coexistence with
</I>>><i> drakxtools and sysinit, conflicting for the control of the
</I>>><i> interface, rather than actual problems in NM code. Waiting for them
</I>>><i> to magically disapear won't help much...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Ah ok, but shouldn't that all be fixed now that the patch is back to
</I>><i> make NetworkManager properly ignore stuff that it should ignore?
</I>><i>
</I>
I tink it is _lot_ easier even for drakxtools to write a file into
/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections that to mess with ifcfg-* files.
And NM is the only sane way to have, in my case, 4 or 5 WiFi configurations
for the same interface and let it pick the right one depending on my
location. It is just marvelous, and without any ifcfg-* file rewriting
on the fly.
And I suppose it can also be done, but I never managed to do without NM:
let my linux in the far corner of the house boot and connect to wifi
without any user logged in...
So in my case, a big +1 for NM and kill all sysvinit files for network.
I acknowledge that I never tried to do bonding with NM, for example...
><i> meaning: only look for USE_NM/NM_CONTROLLED (I forgot which), not demand
</I>><i> more than that.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But ideally it would be nice if there was only one way to setup a
</I>><i> network.. and for me that means NetworkManager :). But drakxtools was
</I>><i> more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced,
</I>><i> more documentation, etc.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cool possibilities with just NetworkManager:
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:</A>
</I>><i> (all one bugzilla.gnome.org, seem duplicates, but there is a bug per
</I>><i> product, so bug for maybe gnome-control-center, gnome-shell, etc)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 677144: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
</I>><i> 677145: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
</I>><i> 677146: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
</I>><i> 677147: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
</I>><i> 677148: network: make sure vlans are handled
</I>><i> 677149: network: make sure vlans are handled
</I>><i> 677150: network: make sure ipoib is handled
</I>><i> 677151: network: make sure ipoib is handled
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I had to lookup what ipoib (IP over infiniband) meant, article is here:
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html">http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> GNOME shell specific:
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142:">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142:</A> multiple nics (NM can
</I>><i> handle it, GNOME shell not)
</I>><i> 677142: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
</I>><i> 677143: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Note: The support is in NetworkManager. The GNOME bugs are to ensure it
</I>><i> is shown/exposed in the UI properly. Not sure if available in stuff like
</I>><i> KNetworkManager, but NM is not specific to GNOME.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> All bugs above are really server like things. I thought drakxtools still
</I>><i> was better at setting up Wifi; and I think that is more important to get
</I>><i> right than vlan/bridging/etc.
</I>><i>
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