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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011065.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011065.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d0236afa5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-January/011065.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Orphans%20-%20those%20poor%20orphans%20.%20.%20.&In-Reply-To=%3C201201070848.43107.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="011033.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="011034.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Orphans%20-%20those%20poor%20orphans%20.%20.%20.&In-Reply-To=%3C201201070848.43107.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jan 7 08:48:43 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011033.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011034.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11065">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11065">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11065">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11065">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op vrijdag 06 januari 2012 13:02:26 schreef Thierry Vignaud: +><i> On 6 January 2012 12:27, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > This is a well known issue. +</I>><i> > To clear out the list you need a deep knowledge of the system to +</I>><i> > determine which packages are really not needed anymore. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Lately this --auto-orphans line shreddered my whole system on a fresh +</I>><i> > install after the first update, several system services could not +</I>><i> > start at next reboot, applications did not run, etc. One of the very +</I>><i> > few times I had to re-install because of a bug. Call me newbie or +</I>><i> > pussy but until this is not a secure function I will never touch it +</I>><i> > again. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is just a bogus claim: +</I>><i> If some apps break after removing orphan packages, they'll break too +</I>><i> after manually removing such packages, meaning they lack some +</I>><i> requires... +</I> +perhaps, to instill more confidence, we could: + +- have only list the leaf orphans; which means of course, you can do it +multiple times, or maybe --recursive to give them all +- not to list in orphan list packages which don't contain any files: ie, tasks +- mention clearly that if they want to use some package, that they can install +it +- list separately and sorted the ones with changed access times? as in, they +have been used since install? (unless partition is mounted noatime, of +course... /o\ + +personally, orphans can break packages, but basesystem and basesystem-minimal +should both not be removed, perhaps we can even put on a warning if those are +not installed; when running --auto-orphans. + +perhaps a combination of these options could instill more confidence... but... +is it worth it??? +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011033.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011034.html">[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . . +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11065">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11065">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11065">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11065">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |