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Solbu at 08/12/12 10:37 did gyre and gimble: +</I>><i> > On Saturday 8. December 2012 11.06, Guillaume Rousse wrote: +</I>><i> >>> Unless I misunderstand, adding it to «task-obsolete» does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting. +</I>><i> >>> So the proper action would be to add it to «task-obsolete». +</I>><i> >> That's still not the proper action. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In other words, I did misunderstand. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >> Stop removing packages from end +</I>><i> >> user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of +</I>><i> >> our package submission procedure. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So what should we do? +</I>><i> > The current packaging guidelines[1] says that this is the correct action for obsolete packages, which a depcrecated package is. +</I>><i> > If this is not the desired solution, then the guidelines should change. Perhaps just clairfied as to what is an obsolete package, which belongs in task-obsolete, and what is Not an obsolete package even if it's deprecated. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I totally agree with Johnny here. If users want to keep unmaintained and +</I>><i> no-longer-supplied packages on their machine (obviously making a +</I>><i> concious decision to not get security updates etc. on such packages) +</I>><i> then they are welcome to add task-obsolete to their urpmi skip lists. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this +</I>><i> something that's done as a "side effect", rather it's a quite deliberate +</I>><i> and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a +</I>><i> users machine. +</I> +One of the problem with task-obsolete obsoleting packages is that it can +silently uninstall packages and break something which was working, +without warning. + +Maybe instead of obsoleting packages, task-obsolete could conflict with +those packages : + - users who want to remove unsupported packages install task-obsolete, + and have a warning from rpmdrake/urpmi before conflicting packages + are removed + - users who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install + task-obsolete. They can still ask urpmi to install task-obsolete to + see the list of packages it would remove. + +Or we can stop using task-obsolete package, and instead create a file +"unsupported" in media_info directory on the mirrors containing a list +of unsupported packages, and used by urpmq/urpme --unsupported to +list/remove unsupported packages. + +What do you think ? + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020709.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="020712.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#20711">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#20711">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#20711">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#20711">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |