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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 &#224; 11:24 -0500, Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Farfouille wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have published a first draft of Java application package policy. <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=java_applications_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=java_applications_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Corrections and comments are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The bit about pre-packaged JARs may cause trouble. In theory, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; great, but many applications depend upon certain versions of their
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; utility JARs, and can't all run with the latest versions. Any such app
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would have a Requires for its specific version, which would prevent the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; utility JAR from being updated with a newer version for other apps.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is why EJB allows EJB apps to include their own specific versions
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of utility JARs, which are visible to them but not to other apps or the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; container itself, and also why Maven uses versioned artifacts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's the same issue for everything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shipping binary jar given by upstream tarball cause trouble because you
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) cannot patch them in case of bug
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) cannot see how and what was compiled
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not very free software friendly, and I think we should refuse
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>
+I've already seen while trying to package java apps, a jar being shipped,
+but sources not available anywhere on the internet, except after
+searching for a few hours on an old website on archive.org with broken
+link to the sources zip, and developers not aware of the issue, because
+they never tried to find the sources, and always used this binary .jar
+they found on a random web site.
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