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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -&gt; mga2 upgrade</H1>
+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRFC%5D%20prefer%20dma%20rather%20than%20postfix%20in%0A%20prefer.vendor.list%20for%20msec%20mga1%20-%3E%20mga2%20upgrade&In-Reply-To=%3C4EBAF24C.60804%40arcor.de%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Nov 9 22:36:12 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Am 09.11.2011 21:41, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
+&gt;<i> On 09.11.2011 22:34, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 09.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 &#224; 19:38 +0100, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as Anssi made me aware msec currently has a Requires on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sendmail-command for cauldron, this was the outcome of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> last discussion about msec / MTA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, currently in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list postfix
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is preferred as sendmail-command and mail-server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anssi's vote and mine is to replace preference on postfix
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with dma to ensure users get dma installed with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade from Mageia 1 -&gt; 2 and not postfix which needs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> configuration.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What configuration ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK, Postfix work out of the box for the use case of msec/cron, mail
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sent to root are delivered to root mailbox, unless someone added a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> aliase.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From a quick look at dma, it behave the same ( ie, it take aliase from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the same file, thus requiring the same configuration, or needing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> same declaration of a smart host ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wouldn't it be better to send everything to /var/log if no mta are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> found ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( ie, do something like that :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA</A> ). We have the proper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> version of cronie ( I hope ), so what prevent us ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> msec already sends everything also to /var/log, which was disregarded
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in last discussion because normal users don't look there and it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> slowly adds up on diskspace.
+</I>&gt;<i> Normal users also do not read local mailboxes and the mailboxes slowly
+</I>&gt;<i> add up on diskspace.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, normal users requested this.
+
+Still this doesn't answer what to do about the migration mga1-&gt;2,
+which you asked about on IRC. So what do we do about it?
+
+Your opinion seems we should remove sendmail-command
+Require from msec, and let it only write to /var/log/security
+and not do anything as it was before?
+
+Then i wonder why we had the discussion about msec
+and MTA in the first place.
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