[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -> mga2 upgrade

Wed Nov 9 22:36:12 CET 2011

Am 09.11.2011 21:41, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
+> On 09.11.2011 22:34, Florian Hubold wrote:
+>> Am 09.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+>>> Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 19:38 +0100, Florian Hubold a écrit :
+>>>> Hi there,
+>>>>
+>>>> as Anssi made me aware msec currently has a Requires on
+>>>> sendmail-command for cauldron, this was the outcome of the
+>>>> last discussion about msec / MTA.
+>>>> However, currently in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list postfix
+>>>> is preferred as sendmail-command and mail-server.
+>>>>
+>>>> Anssi's vote and mine is to replace preference on postfix
+>>>> with dma to ensure users get dma installed with the
+>>>> upgrade from Mageia 1 ->   2 and not postfix which needs
+>>>> configuration.
+>>> What configuration ?
+>>> AFAIK, Postfix work out of the box for the use case of msec/cron, mail
+>>> sent to root are delivered to root mailbox, unless someone added a
+>>> aliase.
+>>>
+>>>>  From a quick look at dma, it behave the same ( ie, it take aliase from
+>>> the same file, thus requiring the same configuration, or needing the
+>>> same declaration of a smart host ).
+>>>
+>>> Wouldn't it be better to send everything to /var/log if no mta are
+>>> found ?
+>>> ( ie, do something like that :
+>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA ). We have the proper
+>>> version of cronie ( I hope ), so what prevent us ?
+>>>
+>> msec already sends everything also to /var/log, which was disregarded
+>> in last discussion because normal users don't look there and it
+>> slowly adds up on diskspace.
+> Normal users also do not read local mailboxes and the mailboxes slowly
+> add up on diskspace.
+>
+Well, normal users requested this.
+
+Still this doesn't answer what to do about the migration mga1->2,
+which you asked about on IRC. So what do we do about it?
+
+Your opinion seems we should remove sendmail-command
+Require from msec, and let it only write to /var/log/security
+and not do anything as it was before?
+
+Then i wonder why we had the discussion about msec
+and MTA in the first place.
+