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I don't think so personally. I +think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other +distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality +of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing +them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools +were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has +changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly +integrated into the DEs. + +><i> personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this. +</I> +Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then +I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM +does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of +connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading +package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's +certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is +actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking +your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has +not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that +anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new +features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here +and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the +wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up. + + + +Col + +1. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263</A> I had to manually edit +wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN +hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good +integration. + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007434.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007471.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7442">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7442">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7442">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7442">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |