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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Tue Aug 23 10:47:18 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 22/08/11 22:39 did gyre and gimble:
><i> imho, the tools that are now available don't really work well together, ie: if
</I>><i> you use multiple of those tools, likely they don't show correct status, etc...
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So combining home-grown solutions with those integrated into the DEs
(both GNOME and KDE are integrating with NM in a more complete way these
days) is a way to solve this problem? I don't think so personally. I
think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other
distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality
of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing
them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools
were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has
changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly
integrated into the DEs.
><i> personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this.
</I>
Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then
I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM
does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of
connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading
package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's
certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is
actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking
your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has
not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that
anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new
features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here
and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the
wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up.
Col
1. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263</A> I had to manually edit
wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN
hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good
integration.
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