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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101213/001719.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101213/001719.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9aadcde46 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101213/001719.html @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3C4D05F973.3040001%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001718.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001720.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3C4D05F973.3040001%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Dec 13 11:46:11 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Daniel Kreuter a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ewilcox at bex.net</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ewilcox at bex.net</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I see it, we already have a usable mirror lay-out (posted earlier +</I>><i> in this +</I>><i> thread). The only real discussion that should remain is whether to +</I>><i> include the +</I>><i> "tainted" branch in the official Mageia tree, or to offer it in an +</I>><i> alternate +</I>><i> repository such as PLF (my earlier suggestion). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. +</I>><i> Registered Linux User 247790 +</I>><i> ICQ 41060744 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Good point. I would suggest that (with permission like you mentioned) we +</I>><i> include only such patented software in the main repos like drivers. And +</I>><i> everything else like mp3 in the tainted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Especially network-drivers should be included, nothing is worse than +</I>><i> looking for the drivers if you have no network (as I always have to do +</I>><i> in Debian). +</I> +Generally drivers have permission to distribute, but not to modify or +reverse engineer, and source code is rarely available. +Mandriva does include network drivers. But a lot of other commonly used +drivers aren't on the "free" ISOs. I think they should be in all the +ISOs. Whatever their licence, with the core packages. +So that is one area where Mageia can improve on Mandriva. + +><i> -- +</I>><i> Mit freundlichen Grüßen +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Greetings +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Daniel Kreuter +</I> +Please note that both Ubuntu and Debian carry patented-constrained +software. (Debian officially in their "non-free" repositories.) +Both have many mirrors in the U.S. + +To say that carrying software that may present patent infringement is +illegal is grossly simplefying the issue. +Only if a court decides that a patent is legitimate, and that a +particular software really infringes on that patent, without permission +(direct or indirect or implicitly) of the patent holder, does that +software contravene the civil rights of the patent holder. Most +patents, even if pursued, never reach that stage. + +Note that the patent holder is always free to not pursue apparent patent +violators, thus giving implicit permission. In case of open source +projects, they could decide that it is more in their interests to not +pursue those who would not be in a position to pay royalties, so as to +not discourage the use of their technology, and thus encourage the +development of viable alternatives. +Which could lead to those currently (or potentially in the future) +paying royalties deciding to switch to these patent (and royalty) free +alternatives. + +Copyright infringement is generally much easier to determine, making it +both easier to avoid, as well as easier to prove. +So a policy of insisting on permission to redistribute for copyrightable +material seems appropriate. + +Such an approach for potentially patent-infringing material is virtually +impossible. +(Just think of the bogus Linux kernel case a few years back.) +(Or Microsoft's patent on certain essential elements of a spreadsheet.) + +So in my mind we should wait until until approached by the patent holder +about a particular package before considering designating the package as +patent-constrained. + +Initially, I don't see us needing a set of repositories for contrained +(or "tainted") packages. + +But I do see PLF as a reasonable place for packages we choose not to carry. +They have a open invitation to host constrained packages for any +distribution, as long as packagers volonteer.) +Mageia doesn't necessarily have to be (but could be) involved. I'm sure +there will be volonteers, whatever we decide. + +my 2 cents :) + +- André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001718.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001720.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |