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However keeping an extra set of repositories for core packages +</I>>><i> would just add a few extra directories (without changing the number/size +</I>>><i> of their total content), thus have little impact on mirror administration. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One would think so; however, a few people who replied where mirror +</I>><i> administrators; and it seems, IIUC that they said it does have impact. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm just gonna trust their judgement on this, since they know more about this +</I>><i> than myself. +</I> +Mageia requires mirror sites to use rsync for mirroring. +Mirroring at least every few hours, if I remember correctly. (I forget +the other details.) + +They need a single line of code, something like + +rsync -ra {URL-source-directory} {local-destination-directory} + +This is very easy to do : Mageia gives the source URL (and the options +required), and the mirror site knows the destination directory. + +This line of code is put in a cron (or acron) job file, configured to +run automatically at the specified regular intervals. + +If they exclude the optional "tainted" repositories, they have to add an +"--exclude" option with the relative path to these repositories. +(Still in a single line.) +Fairly straight-forward. + +Why system admins in multi-mirror sites with lots of other tasks would +like to avoid optional repositories is that they are probably already +overloaded with things to do, and adding the exclusion multiplies the +risk of having a (tiny) error that makes it not work. +Also, a minor change at the Mageia source could make it stop working. +The last thing they need is another problem. + +><i> [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Note that if, down the road, we find another effective method for +</I>>><i> distinquishing core / non-core, it is relatively simple to transfer +</I>>><i> packages in "extra" to "core". +</I>>><i> But if we eliminate the parallel set of repositories, and find later +</I>>><i> that we have a problem giving priority to core packages, moving in the +</I>>><i> other direction would be a much more difficult process. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IIRC someone with experience said in this thread that we could always go to +</I>><i> that sort of scenario if like this it wouldn't work well. Again, i'm gonna +</I>><i> trust their judgement on this. +</I> +( At least some things said in this thread seem to me more in the line +of wishful thinking. A bit like "I'm not planning to have an accident, +so why do I need a seat belt ?" ) + +I still think it would be better to later remove than add. +The main problem is that without the separation by repositories, in +order to ensure full support for core modules, we would need another +control. +If we start with separate sets of repositories, that control is already +there - removing the complication of adding some other control in +setting up the system. +Maybe we can find a way of setting up a reliable such control in the +build system without a too much effort. But it is more effort, subject +to debugging, etc, as with any new code. + +regards + +- André +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001586.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1589">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1589">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1589">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1589">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |