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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Fri Dec 3 06:07:27 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op donderdag 02 december 2010 08:20:15 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op woensdag 01 december 2010 21:54:48 schreef andre999:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i also see that mirror layout should be as easy as possible for mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> admins.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. However keeping an extra set of repositories for core packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would just add a few extra directories (without changing the number/size
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of their total content), thus have little impact on mirror administration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One would think so; however, a few people who replied where mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> administrators; and it seems, IIUC that they said it does have impact.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm just gonna trust their judgement on this, since they know more about this
+</I>&gt;<i> than myself.
+</I>
+Mageia requires mirror sites to use rsync for mirroring.
+Mirroring at least every few hours, if I remember correctly. (I forget
+the other details.)
+
+They need a single line of code, something like
+
+rsync -ra {URL-source-directory} {local-destination-directory}
+
+This is very easy to do : Mageia gives the source URL (and the options
+required), and the mirror site knows the destination directory.
+
+This line of code is put in a cron (or acron) job file, configured to
+run automatically at the specified regular intervals.
+
+If they exclude the optional &quot;tainted&quot; repositories, they have to add an
+&quot;--exclude&quot; option with the relative path to these repositories.
+(Still in a single line.)
+Fairly straight-forward.
+
+Why system admins in multi-mirror sites with lots of other tasks would
+like to avoid optional repositories is that they are probably already
+overloaded with things to do, and adding the exclusion multiplies the
+risk of having a (tiny) error that makes it not work.
+Also, a minor change at the Mageia source could make it stop working.
+The last thing they need is another problem.
+
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note that if, down the road, we find another effective method for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distinquishing core / non-core, it is relatively simple to transfer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages in &quot;extra&quot; to &quot;core&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But if we eliminate the parallel set of repositories, and find later
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we have a problem giving priority to core packages, moving in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other direction would be a much more difficult process.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IIRC someone with experience said in this thread that we could always go to
+</I>&gt;<i> that sort of scenario if like this it wouldn't work well. Again, i'm gonna
+</I>&gt;<i> trust their judgement on this.
+</I>
+( At least some things said in this thread seem to me more in the line
+of wishful thinking. A bit like &quot;I'm not planning to have an accident,
+so why do I need a seat belt ?&quot; )
+
+I still think it would be better to later remove than add.
+The main problem is that without the separation by repositories, in
+order to ensure full support for core modules, we would need another
+control.
+If we start with separate sets of repositories, that control is already
+there - removing the complication of adding some other control in
+setting up the system.
+Maybe we can find a way of setting up a reliable such control in the
+build system without a too much effort. But it is more effort, subject
+to debugging, etc, as with any new code.
+
+regards
+
+- Andr&#233;
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