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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-09 03:57, Margot a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> There has been a lengthy debate about users' wishes for the Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> release cycle, but one important voice has been missing from this
+</I>&gt;<i> debate: the collective voice of the devs who will be responsible
+</I>&gt;<i> for producing the releases.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before we start having polls and surveys, it would be useful to
+</I>&gt;<i> hear from our devs. I'm hoping that they have already been
+</I>&gt;<i> communicating with one another in the background (IRC? private
+</I>&gt;<i> emails?) and working out what can actually be done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As this is supposed to be a community-based distro, why do I think
+</I>&gt;<i> that the devs' opinion is so important?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (a) They are the ones with the experience, they know how many
+</I>&gt;<i> person-hours it will take to produce a releasable version of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> (b) They are the ones who know how many hours they each have
+</I>&gt;<i> available to personally commit to Mageia - some may be able to work
+</I>&gt;<i> full-time on Mageia, others will have other work or family
+</I>&gt;<i> commitments, and even those who can work full-time on Mageia will
+</I>&gt;<i> occasionally need to sleep and eat!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have two targets:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) A cauldron version for experienced users to test, and
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) A stable (as much as possible!) version for less experienced
+</I>&gt;<i> end-users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, devs, please draw on your experience and your knowledge, and
+</I>&gt;<i> tell us what will actually be possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Margot:
+
+Romain suggested this on one of those lenghty threads:
+
+---------------------
+
+It has been posted before but I guess it's a good read for anyone
+willing to push an argument in this debate:
+<A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/</A>
+
+It is a nice post explaining the existing different point of views
+(bonus to clever points about updates frequency and presentation).
+
+Now, in the same vein, let's put the discussion at rest a little and
+have each interested person write down an article with arguments for
+the why's and how's. So here is a page for that:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate</A>
+
+Please write down your point of view, detail it as explained on the
+wiki page, link it and a week from now, everyone involved in the
+discussion can have a look at it for a summary.
+
+That won't trigger a change decision at once (way too soon anyway, we
+have to roll a first release to assess our new build system and
+infrastructure and organisation) but it may at least lay down all
+arguments and allow to have a better view of what everyone understand,
+agree on definitions and see what is really at stake here. For later
+reference, discussion and decision.
+
+Thanks a lot.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
+
+---------------------
+
+Marc
+
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