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    <B>Marc Par&#233;</B> 
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    <I>Sat Oct  9 10:18:12 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>Le 2010-10-09 03:57, Margot a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> There has been a lengthy debate about users' wishes for the Mageia
</I>&gt;<i> release cycle, but one important voice has been missing from this
</I>&gt;<i> debate: the collective voice of the devs who will be responsible
</I>&gt;<i> for producing the releases.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Before we start having polls and surveys, it would be useful to
</I>&gt;<i> hear from our devs. I'm hoping that they have already been
</I>&gt;<i> communicating with one another in the background (IRC? private
</I>&gt;<i> emails?) and working out what can actually be done.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> As this is supposed to be a community-based distro, why do I think
</I>&gt;<i> that the devs' opinion is so important?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> (a) They are the ones with the experience, they know how many
</I>&gt;<i> person-hours it will take to produce a releasable version of
</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.
</I>&gt;<i> (b) They are the ones who know how many hours they each have
</I>&gt;<i> available to personally commit to Mageia - some may be able to work
</I>&gt;<i> full-time on Mageia, others will have other work or family
</I>&gt;<i> commitments, and even those who can work full-time on Mageia will
</I>&gt;<i> occasionally need to sleep and eat!
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> We have two targets:
</I>&gt;<i> 1) A cauldron version for experienced users to test, and
</I>&gt;<i> 2) A stable (as much as possible!) version for less experienced
</I>&gt;<i> end-users.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> So, devs, please draw on your experience and your knowledge, and
</I>&gt;<i> tell us what will actually be possible.
</I>&gt;<i>
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Hi Margot:

Romain suggested this on one of those lenghty threads:

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It has been posted before but I guess it's a good read for anyone
willing to push an argument in this debate:
<A HREF="http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/">http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/a-story-about-updates-and-people/</A>

It is a nice post explaining the existing different point of views
(bonus to clever points about updates frequency and presentation).

Now, in the same vein, let's put the discussion at rest a little and
have each interested person write down an article with arguments for
the why's and how's. So here is a page for that:
<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate</A>

Please write down your point of view, detail it as explained on the
wiki page, link it and a week from now, everyone involved in the
discussion can have a look at it for a summary.

That won't trigger a change decision at once (way too soon anyway, we
have to roll a first release to assess our new build system and
infrastructure and organisation) but it may at least lay down all
arguments and allow to have a better view of what everyone understand,
agree on definitions and see what is really at stake here. For later
reference, discussion and decision.

Thanks a lot.

Cheers,

Romain

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Marc


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