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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/2011-September/000607.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/2011-September/000607.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fe959e824 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/2011-September/000607.html @@ -0,0 +1,163 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-artwork] Window decoration + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-artwork%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-artwork%5D%20Window%20decoration&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPn0va5zC2RvQ-T_9-X-pwq0Jv6Pvn%3DXagJCh51QU3ez7c2Xig%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000610.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000612.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration</H1> + <B>Donald Stewart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-artwork%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-artwork%5D%20Window%20decoration&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPn0va5zC2RvQ-T_9-X-pwq0Jv6Pvn%3DXagJCh51QU3ez7c2Xig%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration">watersnowrock at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Sep 6 10:16:03 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-artwork] Vacation notice +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#607">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#607">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#607">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#607">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 3 July 2011 20:10, Anne Nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Le 03/07/2011 17:02, Max Quarterpleen a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This has also been discussed in the forum: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Thorsten van Lil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hey, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> the discussion also take place last week in the mailing list, but I'd like +</I>>><i> to +</I>>><i> do that in an extra thread. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> To summarize the current situation: +</I>>><i> The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned and is hard to +</I>>><i> maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3 (needed +</I>>><i> for +</I>>><i> Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the +</I>>><i> following solutions: +</I>>><i> 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment: +</I>>><i> * Very easy, no extra work needed +</I>>><i> * all work is done upstream +</I>>><i> * no unique look for mageia +</I>>><i> * different look in kde and gnome +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2.) create a new decoration for mageia +</I>>><i> * Unique look for mageia +</I>>><i> * uniform look in all environments +</I>>><i> * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 3.) Use other existing window decorations +</I>>><i> * easy, just a few work needed +</I>>><i> * the are decorations that exists for all common environments -> uniform +</I>>><i> look +</I>>><i> * relative unique look for mageia +</I>>><i> * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the decoration +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> >From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the +</I>>><i> artwork-side, +</I>>><i> I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but with a +</I>>><i> different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the decoration +</I>>><i> either, it's making a special first impression if it looks different (and +</I>>><i> good, +</I>>><i> hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But for +</I>>><i> that, we +</I>>><i> need more information. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that exist in +</I>>><i> kde, +</I>>><i> gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that, we can +</I>>><i> take a +</I>>><i> closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an other +</I>>><i> solution. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window +</I>>><i> decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3 and Qt +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Except some comments like "I don't like it" or "it's old", some points we +</I>><i> should keep in mind +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design part of +</I>><i> the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :). Technical +</I>><i> integration is another story. +</I>><i> - having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a question of +</I>><i> choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing GTK and Qt apps. +</I>><i> Having something uniform was quite a strong point in Mandriva and it should +</I>><i> be a mandatory point +</I>><i> - as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If we have a +</I>><i> theme available for bot environment that is a good starting point. +</I>><i> Developpers can always decide not to develop it at one time. But at least we +</I>><i> have something ready to use. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Regards, +</I>>><i> Thorsten +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-artwork mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-artwork mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-artwork mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +I'm with Anne, a uniform look is very important. + +Well, there is qtcurve and as you mention above, oxygen is ported to +most widget sets. There is also the qt-gtk engine, but I feel that we +should avoid this as I have heard bad reports and I think it might +make changing themes in gnome troublesome. +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-artwork] Vacation notice +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#607">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#607">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#607">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#607">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More information about the Mageia-artwork +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |