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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)</H1>
<B>Felix Miata</B>
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<I>Fri May 4 20:24:51 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 2012/05/04 16:04 (GMT+0100) Colin Guthrie composed:
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Felix Miata at 04/05/12 15:19 did gyre and gimble:
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>><i> Mageia's installer has the same problem that bothers me in Mandriva. The
</I>>><i> type install screen with KDE vs Gnome vs custom has no intermediate step
</I>>><i> prior to the start of selected packages installation. Does this bother
</I>>><i> no one else?
</I>
><i> While a moot point for mga2 as others have said, I'd prefer not to have
</I>><i> an extra confirmation here. "Extra Clicks" are things UI people try to
</I>><i> reduce and for good reason. You don't want people being "click happy"
</I>><i> and ignore anything that is said to them (i.e. the privilege escalation
</I>><i> dialogue in Windows Vista).
</I>
No doubt it is good to avoid unnecessary clicking, which implies unnecessary
decisions to be presented. The problem is deciding on what is necessary or
desirable....
><i> I do accept that more clarity is maybe needed so if you pick one of the
</I>><i> predefined sets (Gnome or KDE) perhaps the button should say "Start
</I>><i> Installation" rather than "Next"? When you select "Custom" it should
</I>><i> instead read "Customise". That requires no extra clicks or confirmations
</I>><i> but should increase clarity to a level you'll be happy with.
</I>
Of all the thread responses I've seen to this point, IMO the above probably
answers my OP the best, and is a good place from which to extend discussion.
For one thing, there is no apparent option to not have a "workstation desktop
profile", one that at least initially does not include X. Even after clicking
on each of the three images, it's not apparent to me what "next" implies,
certainly not immediately begin downloading and installing rpms without any
mention that all preparatory steps have reached completion if "custom" has
not been selected. Note here that the pointer at left is still on
"partitioning". Maybe there should be some other "preparation" step to reach
in that list before the pointer moves to "installation". Right now, and as it
has been for quite some time, without first opening "help", the logic just
seems broken, missing step(s).
Maybe just a few more words above, and altering the button language according
to the highlighted selection would be sufficient:
Gnome or KDE -> begin installing packages
Custom -> customize packages selection
>><i> 2-There are no formatting options offered for /. Since I virtually
</I>>><i> always install to a multiboot system, I require maximum
</I>>><i> cross-installation compatibility. I can't have inode sizes, UUIDs and
</I>>><i> volume labels changed willy nilly without having to go back and
</I>>><i> reconfigure every other installation to conform to needless changes made
</I>>><i> by a new installation. Format step really ought to offer selectable
</I>>><i> format options so that an existing UUID, LABEL and/or Inode size could
</I>>><i> be preserved and yet the / target really be empty.
</I>
><i> This seems a very different point to the topic/subject of your mail. I
</I>><i> suggest you wait until mga2 is out and then submit your wish bugs.
</I>
Point 2 was mostly for context. I've not yet investigated whether anything
similar has ever been filed in Mandriva or Mageia bug trackers.
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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