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(no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)</H1> + <B>Felix Miata</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Are%20you%20sure%3F%20%28no%20confirmation%20before%20proceeding%0A%20to%20selected%20packages%20installation%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4FA41EF3.7040505%40earthlink.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)">mrmazda at earthlink.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri May 4 20:24:51 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015289.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? 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"Extra Clicks" are things UI people try to +</I>><i> reduce and for good reason. You don't want people being "click happy" +</I>><i> and ignore anything that is said to them (i.e. the privilege escalation +</I>><i> dialogue in Windows Vista). +</I> +No doubt it is good to avoid unnecessary clicking, which implies unnecessary +decisions to be presented. The problem is deciding on what is necessary or +desirable.... + +><i> I do accept that more clarity is maybe needed so if you pick one of the +</I>><i> predefined sets (Gnome or KDE) perhaps the button should say "Start +</I>><i> Installation" rather than "Next"? When you select "Custom" it should +</I>><i> instead read "Customise". That requires no extra clicks or confirmations +</I>><i> but should increase clarity to a level you'll be happy with. +</I> +Of all the thread responses I've seen to this point, IMO the above probably +answers my OP the best, and is a good place from which to extend discussion. + +For one thing, there is no apparent option to not have a "workstation desktop +profile", one that at least initially does not include X. Even after clicking +on each of the three images, it's not apparent to me what "next" implies, +certainly not immediately begin downloading and installing rpms without any +mention that all preparatory steps have reached completion if "custom" has +not been selected. Note here that the pointer at left is still on +"partitioning". Maybe there should be some other "preparation" step to reach +in that list before the pointer moves to "installation". Right now, and as it +has been for quite some time, without first opening "help", the logic just +seems broken, missing step(s). + +Maybe just a few more words above, and altering the button language according +to the highlighted selection would be sufficient: + +Gnome or KDE -> begin installing packages +Custom -> customize packages selection + +>><i> 2-There are no formatting options offered for /. Since I virtually +</I>>><i> always install to a multiboot system, I require maximum +</I>>><i> cross-installation compatibility. I can't have inode sizes, UUIDs and +</I>>><i> volume labels changed willy nilly without having to go back and +</I>>><i> reconfigure every other installation to conform to needless changes made +</I>>><i> by a new installation. Format step really ought to offer selectable +</I>>><i> format options so that an existing UUID, LABEL and/or Inode size could +</I>>><i> be preserved and yet the / target really be empty. +</I> +><i> This seems a very different point to the topic/subject of your mail. I +</I>><i> suggest you wait until mga2 is out and then submit your wish bugs. +</I> +Point 2 was mostly for context. I've not yet investigated whether anything +similar has ever been filed in Mandriva or Mageia bug trackers. +-- +"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant +words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) + + Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! + +Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015289.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? 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