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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jul 11 18:29:11 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 09 Jul 2012, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 05.07.2012 18:34, Damien Lallement skrev:&gt; Here comes a new
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration with all remarks taken in account:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; FYI, we had:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The bad points of the server we had were:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The good points were:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 16 GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 2x2TB of HDD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HW raid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I made a NEW configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R320 and all your
+</I>&gt;<i> remarks:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10M, 6.4GT/s, No Turbo, 4C, 80W
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here is a link to compare the actual CPU of rabbit and the new one:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614">http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we gained 340 MHz / core if we ignore Turbo mode, but we also
+</I>&gt;<i> lost hyperthreading... so compressing livecds will most likely
+</I>&gt;<i> be any faster.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - RAM: 32GB DDR3 1333MHz (16GB on the previous proposal)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD controller: PERC H710 RAID Controller, 512MB NV Cache, (HW RAID)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice controller.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD: 2 x 1TB Near-Line SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 7.2k (in RAID 1)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Back to sata speed disks
+</I>
+Problem is that SAS disks are very expensive. So it increases the price
+a lot.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - iDRAC7 Express (not on the previous proposal)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Dual Hot Plug Power Supplies 350W (not on the previous proposal)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cost: ~2800 &#8364; without taxes*
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * I asked a reduction to Dell. Stay tuned!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, WDYT about this NEW proposal?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd rather take the old one then, add 2x300GB in raid1 and 2x300 in
+</I>&gt;<i> raid0, and add 32GB ram to that one...
+</I>
+The old one (R210 II) with 4*300GB and 32GB of ram costs 3 695 euros
+(without tax).
+
+It's 420 euros for each 300GB disk, so we have 1680 euros of disks.
+600 GB disks are at 510 euros each. Unfortunatly 300GB disks are not a
+lot cheaper than 600GB ones.
+
+Switching from 16GB (4*4GB) to 32GB (4*8GB) of ram adds 1223 euros.
+
+On R320, 16GB RDIMM costs 295 euros. Maybe if we have 32GB of ram, we
+can use 16GB for tmpfs to store temporary build files, and it can
+compensate not having SAS disks ? Or 48 or 64GB ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or as a different proposal...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What if we make ecosse our new rabbit ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It has dual Xeon 5000 series Quad core running at 2.66 / core
+</I>&gt;<i> (so 8 real cores available)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It currently has 8GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would need to buy:
+</I>&gt;<i> - a new disk controller (as the current integrated ESB2 one sucks)
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2 &gt;= 300GB SATA disks for system, frozen repo and readybuilt isos
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1 ~250GB SATA SSD for iso builds
+</I>&gt;<i> - maybe some more RAM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The cash saved could be used instead for the replacement &gt;= jonund-class
+</I>&gt;<i> buildhost.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would that work ?
+</I>
+Problem with this solution is that bios on ecosse seems to be buggy, so
+we are not sure that adding a new disk controller will work. So spending
+some money to buy a good disk controller can be risky.
+
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