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+As per <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3099">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3099</A>
+Could someone from the sysadmin team remove the rpm packages
+tomcat5
+tomcat5-admin-webapps
+tomcat5-common-lib
+tomcat5-jasper
+tomcat5-jasper-eclipse
+tomcat5-jasper-javadoc
+tomcat5-server-lib
+tomcat5-webapps
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+ From Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing.
+
+Thanks, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>02.07.2012 03:29, David W. Hodgins skrev:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As per <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3099">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3099</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could someone from the sysadmin team remove the rpm packages
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-admin-webapps
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-common-lib
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-jasper
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-jasper-eclipse
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-jasper-javadoc
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-server-lib
+</I>&gt;<i> tomcat5-webapps
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Done.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+<PRE>Le 26/06/2012 17:56, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>
+Hi there
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you know, rabbit.mageia.org was offered to Mageia.Org.
+</I>&gt;<i> This gift is now over and we need to find a way to replace this server
+</I>&gt;<i> ASAP as alpha of Mageia 3 is not so far...ime i
+</I>
+I'm also guilty but still we need a decision very quickly. dedibox offer
+will end in the beginning og august but we need to close it down 3 weeks
+before. Alpha 1 is planned for 4th of september and we need to have
+server ready 2 weeks before. So time is *short*
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI, we had:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we keep this, it will cost 60 &#8364; Tax Included per month.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, 720 &#8364; for a year.
+</I>&gt;<i> During Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 release process, Anne et Thomas encountered
+</I>&gt;<i> big troubles like: very very long time to generate ISO and to use the
+</I>&gt;<i> server for live and DVD at the same time.
+</I>
+Indeed. Live cds build was done during night as it takes several hours.
+1 DVD iso took about 20 minutes which seems to be fast but very long
+when you are in the middle of a release and you need short build times
+to test some fixes.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The bad points of the server we had were:
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+</I>&gt;<i> - big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+</I>&gt;<i> The good points were:
+</I>&gt;<i> - 16 GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2x2TB of HDD
+</I>&gt;<i> - HW raid
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I checked Lenovo, HP and Dell to have a server to replace this box.
+</I>&gt;<i> Dell is cheaper than the two others!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I made a configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R210-II:
+</I>&gt;<i> - CPU: 1 x Intel Xeon E3-1240: 4C/8T, 3,30 GHz, 8M Cache
+</I>&gt;<i> - RAM: 16GB
+</I>&gt;<i> - HDD controller: Dell H200 (hardware raid)
+</I>&gt;<i> - HDD: 2 x 600GB, SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 15k (in RAID 0) Careful: can't add more
+</I>&gt;<i> HDD! If we choose, the backpane for 4HDD, HDD will be 10k instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> 15k... Add adding SSD on our side will break Dell warranty...
+</I>&gt;<i> - iDRAC6 Express (impi)
+</I>&gt;<i> Cost: ~1900 &#8364;*
+</I>&gt;<i> * last time, for sucuk, Dell sent me a 15% of rabate. So I think, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> have 15% once again... So it will make a server for ~1600 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The only issue I can see is the HDD.
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, on rabbit:
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at rabbit</A> ~]# du -shc /home/*
+</I>&gt;<i> 189G /home/bcd
+</I>&gt;<i> 63M /home/blino
+</I>&gt;<i> 110M /home/boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> 32K /home/colin
+</I>&gt;<i> 36K /home/dams
+</I>&gt;<i> 44K /home/dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 367G /home/draklive
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.7G /home/ennael
+</I>&gt;<i> 16K /home/lost+found
+</I>&gt;<i> 24K /home/mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 76K /home/mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> 101G /home/misc
+</I>&gt;<i> 36K /home/nanardon
+</I>&gt;<i> 19G /home/pterjan
+</I>&gt;<i> 19G /home/tmb
+</I>&gt;<i> 698G total
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at rabbit</A> ~]# df
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda1 9.7G 4.2G 5.1G 46% /
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/mapper/rabbit-distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> 496G 368G 103G 79% /distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/mapper/rabbit-home
+</I>&gt;<i> 886G 698G 144G 83% /home
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/mapper/rabbit-libvirtd
+</I>&gt;<i> 33G 315M 33G 1% /var/lib/libvirt/images
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at rabbit</A> ~]#
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, the question is: &quot;can you make live/DVD with 'only' 1,2 TB?&quot; :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT about this proposal?
+</I>
+I guess it's possible we can make copies of old builds in another file
+system stored on non SSD disk.
+
+I'm ok with this proposal :)
+
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> I made a configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R210-II:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Cost: ~1900 &#8364;*
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> So, the question is: &quot;can you make live/DVD with 'only' 1,2 TB?&quot; :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT about this proposal?
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+[with treasurer's hat] this is by far within your estimated budget for the year.
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+References: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">4FF171C1.7050309 at gmail.com</A>&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">20961521.BdvcyZTS0X at tech009</A>&gt;
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+On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 06:58:03 -0400, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Here is a proposal : most things on DVD + limited CDs for those who can't use
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 32 bits :
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1 KDE Live DVD, with all languages (being careful to remove useless
+</I>&gt;<i> languages during installation and making sure that it doesn't take too long to
+</I>&gt;<i> do) + firmware + non-free drivers. Less than 4 Gb if possible so that it fits
+</I>&gt;<i> 4Gb USB sticks. Less than 2Gb would be even better.
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1 Gnome Live DVD.
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1 KDE or GNOME Live CD with a selection of languages most popular languages,
+</I>&gt;<i> or languages for regions where bandwith is limited. Just for those who can't
+</I>&gt;<i> use the Live DVD.
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1 installation DVD. Only free stuff but presence of firmware to ensure network
+</I>&gt;<i> works + propose installation of non-free drivers from the mirrors if network
+</I>&gt;<i> available.
+</I>&gt;<i> - boot.iso
+</I>&gt;<i> - boot-nonfree.iso
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 64 bits :
+</I>&gt;<i> - same as 32 bits
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dual arch :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Dual arch DVD (I don't think CD is ok for dual arch, given how much space
+</I>&gt;<i> constraints there are, but as I never used the dual arch CD maybe I don't see
+</I>&gt;<i> why having it as a CD would be useful)
+</I>
+I'd also like to see a non-free installation dvd, similar to Mandriva's powerpack dvds,
+for people like me, who want to do customized installations, on multiple systems at
+separate sites, but have to work with the reality of non-free modules and firmware
+being required.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Damien Lallement&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I made a configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R210-II:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cost: ~1900 &#8364;*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, the question is: &quot;can you make live/DVD with 'only' 1,2 TB?&quot; :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT about this proposal?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [with treasurer's hat] this is by far within your estimated budget for the year.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>
+This needs an anser quickly. Feedbacks welcome before tonight. Then if
+nobody objects we will buy it
+
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
+n
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+Damien Lallement skrev 26.6.2012 18:56:
+ &gt; Hi folks,
+ &gt;
+ &gt; As you know, rabbit.mageia.org was offered to Mageia.Org.
+ &gt; This gift is now over and we need to find a way to replace this server
+ &gt; ASAP as alpha of Mageia 3 is not so far...
+ &gt;
+
+Do we still have rackspace in Marseille datacenter ?
+
+
+ &gt; FYI, we had:
+ &gt;
+<A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+ &gt; If we keep this, it will cost 60 &#8364; Tax Included per month.
+ &gt; So, 720 &#8364; for a year.
+ &gt; During Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 release process, Anne et Thomas encountered
+ &gt; big troubles like: very very long time to generate ISO and to use the
+ &gt; server for live and DVD at the same time.
+ &gt;
+ &gt; The bad points of the server we had were:
+ &gt; - &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+ &gt; - big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+ &gt; The good points were:
+ &gt; - 16 GB of RAM
+ &gt; - 2x2TB of HDD
+ &gt; - HW raid
+ &gt;
+ &gt; I checked Lenovo, HP and Dell to have a server to replace this box.
+ &gt; Dell is cheaper than the two others!
+ &gt;
+ &gt; I made a configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R210-II:
+ &gt; - CPU: 1 x Intel Xeon E3-1240: 4C/8T, 3,30 GHz, 8M Cache
+
+Compressing livecds on rabbit had no problem of maxing out all
+4C/8T available ...
+(but as theese are almost double the speed of current
+ rabbit ones I guess it can be ok)
+
+ &gt; - RAM: 16GB
+
+An other way to speed up builds is to add more ram, and build in tmpfs
+
+ &gt; - HDD controller: Dell H200 (hardware raid)
+
+but no cache, and apparently not capable of doing raid split on same disks.
+
+ &gt; - HDD: 2 x 600GB, SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 15k (in RAID 0) Careful: can't add more
+ &gt; HDD! If we choose, the backpane for 4HDD, HDD will be 10k instead of
+ &gt; 15k... Add adding SSD on our side will break Dell warranty...
+
+Well, it cant be Raid0 only. because one disk will break during rc/final
+and we loose all build work and iso images.
+(and since we dont have any local sysadmin ready to go fix things
+ fast, that will be really bad...)
+
+So we need either a raid controller capable of doing split, or run
+with 4 disks, so we maintain bootable system and readybuilt isos
+even when one disk dies.
+
+ &gt; - iDRAC6 Express (impi)
+ &gt; Cost: ~1900 &#8364;*
+ &gt; * last time, for sucuk, Dell sent me a 15% of rabate. So I think, I will
+ &gt; have 15% once again... So it will make a server for ~1600 &#8364;
+ &gt;
+ &gt; The only issue I can see is the HDD.
+ &gt; For now, on rabbit:
+ &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at rabbit</A> ~]# du -shc /home/*
+ &gt; 189G /home/bcd
+
+This one currently stores frozen repo, a lot of testbuilds and older
+isos.
+Full iso tree for QA is ~20G
+
+Then around ~10G is needed during dvd builds
+
+A frozen repo is ~100G
+
+ &gt; 63M /home/blino
+ &gt; 110M /home/boklm
+ &gt; 32K /home/colin
+ &gt; 36K /home/dams
+ &gt; 44K /home/dmorgan
+ &gt; 367G /home/draklive
+
+This one currently stores a lot of testbuilds.
+
+A full Mga2 16 iso build including chroots is 60G
+
+ &gt; 3.7G /home/ennael
+ &gt; 16K /home/lost+found
+ &gt; 24K /home/mageia
+ &gt; 76K /home/mirror
+ &gt; 101G /home/misc
+ &gt; 36K /home/nanardon
+ &gt; 19G /home/pterjan
+ &gt; 19G /home/tmb
+ &gt; 698G total
+ &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at rabbit</A> ~]# df
+ &gt; Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
+ &gt; /dev/sda1 9.7G 4.2G 5.1G 46% /
+ &gt; /dev/mapper/rabbit-distrib
+ &gt; 496G 368G 103G 79% /distrib
+
+If the server ends up in Marseille DC, this one can be
+dropped as the primary mirror is at same DC so we get
+fast resync, so we need only frozen repo.
+
+ &gt; /dev/mapper/rabbit-home
+ &gt; 886G 698G 144G 83% /home
+ &gt; /dev/mapper/rabbit-libvirtd
+ &gt; 33G 315M 33G 1% /var/lib/libvirt/images
+ &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at rabbit</A> ~]#
+ &gt;
+ &gt; So, the question is: &quot;can you make live/DVD with 'only' 1,2 TB?&quot;
+ &gt; WDYT about this proposal?
+ &gt;
+
+
+--
+
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD controller: Dell H200 (hardware raid)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but no cache, and apparently not capable of doing raid split on same disks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD: 2 x 600GB, SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 15k (in RAID 0) Careful: can't add more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; HDD! If we choose, the backpane for 4HDD, HDD will be 10k instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 15k... Add adding SSD on our side will break Dell warranty...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it cant be Raid0 only. because one disk will break during rc/final
+</I>&gt;<i> and we loose all build work and iso images.
+</I>&gt;<i> (and since we dont have any local sysadmin ready to go fix things
+</I>&gt;<i> fast, that will be really bad...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we need either a raid controller capable of doing split, or run
+</I>&gt;<i> with 4 disks, so we maintain bootable system and readybuilt isos
+</I>&gt;<i> even when one disk dies.
+</I>
+It seems it's not possible to have an other hardware raid controller on
+this server. But we can use software raid instead. We could have one
+20GB raid1 partition for system, and a bigger partition in raid0 for
+build data. If we lose a disk during rc/final, we may loose some data,
+we can reformat the data partition using only one disk and continue
+building isos, until we can replace the disk.
+
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+
+It is planned to travel to Marseille sometime soon to do a few things
+on the servers :
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marseille_3">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marseille_3</A>
+
+We also need to buy a new server to replace rabbit.
+
+And while we are going to Marseille, it would be maybe a good time to
+replace also ecosse :
+- ecosse has problems with its disk controller. When adding new SSD in
+ this server it was difficult to find 2 working ports. Because of this,
+ we also have only one disk for the system (instead of 2 with raid1 on
+ jonund)
+- ecosse is taking 2U. We can probably replace it with a 1U server and
+ save 1U.
+
+Damien started looking at a server to replace ecosse, and will send a
+proposal soon.
+
+What do you think ?
+
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+<PRE>Here comes a new configuration with all remarks taken in account:
+
+FYI, we had:
+<A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+The bad points of the server we had were:
+- &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+- big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+The good points were:
+- 16 GB of RAM
+- 2x2TB of HDD
+- HW raid
+
+I made a NEW configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R320 and all your remarks:
+- CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10M, 6.4GT/s, No Turbo, 4C, 80W
+Here is a link to compare the actual CPU of rabbit and the new one:
+<A HREF="http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614">http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614</A>
+- RAM: 32GB DDR3 1333MHz (16GB on the previous proposal)
+- HDD controller: PERC H710 RAID Controller, 512MB NV Cache, (HW RAID)
+- HDD: 2 x 1TB Near-Line SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 7.2k (in RAID 1)
+- iDRAC7 Express (not on the previous proposal)
+- Dual Hot Plug Power Supplies 350W (not on the previous proposal)
+Cost: ~2800 &#8364; without taxes*
+
+* I asked a reduction to Dell. Stay tuned!
+So, WDYT about this NEW proposal?
+--
+Damien Lallement
+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
+
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+<PRE>Le 04/07/2012 20:54, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien Lallement skrev 26.6.2012 18:56:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As you know, rabbit.mageia.org was offered to Mageia.Org.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This gift is now over and we need to find a way to replace this server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ASAP as alpha of Mageia 3 is not so far...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we still have rackspace in Marseille datacenter ?
+</I>
+For 1U, yes. But, a new mail is comming as the idea is to change ecosse
+at the same time for 1U instead of 2U.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; FYI, we had:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If we keep this, it will cost 60 &#8364; Tax Included per month.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, 720 &#8364; for a year.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; During Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 release process, Anne et Thomas encountered
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; big troubles like: very very long time to generate ISO and to use the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; server for live and DVD at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The bad points of the server we had were:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The good points were:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 16 GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 2x2TB of HDD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HW raid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I checked Lenovo, HP and Dell to have a server to replace this box.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dell is cheaper than the two others!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I made a configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R210-II:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - CPU: 1 x Intel Xeon E3-1240: 4C/8T, 3,30 GHz, 8M Cache
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Compressing livecds on rabbit had no problem of maxing out all
+</I>&gt;<i> 4C/8T available ...
+</I>&gt;<i> (but as theese are almost double the speed of current
+</I>&gt;<i> rabbit ones I guess it can be ok)
+</I>
+If rabbit is too powerfull, why not using it to rebuild distro once a
+month to check dep and errors...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - RAM: 16GB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An other way to speed up builds is to add more ram, and build in tmpfs
+</I>
+Ok, we can put 24GB but more is very very very expensive.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD controller: Dell H200 (hardware raid)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but no cache, and apparently not capable of doing raid split on same
+</I>&gt;<i> disks.
+</I>
+Ok, I made a new configuration, it's RAID 1 with a H710 with 512MB of cache.
+
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Thanks for your feedback, let me mail the new proposal. :-)
+--
+Damien Lallement
+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
+
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+
+Unfortunately, everyone in the cc of the bugs will receive the ping, too.
+
+The only bugs that'll be pinged are that
+* were assigned more than 2 weeks ago
+* where the assignee didn't do anything to the bug since more than two
+weeks ago
+* where the assignee didn't confirm the bug was assigned correctly by
+either setting status to ASSIGNED or by putting OK on the whiteboard and.
+
+Bugs that are assigned to QA or Bug Squad won't be pinged, nor will
+Reporter = Assignee ones.
+
+Enhancement requests and minor bugs won't be pinged either, nor will
+bugs that have the TRACKER or UPSTREAM keyword.
+
+If you're the assignee and you don't have a clue whether the bug was
+assigned correctly or not, please put NEEDHELP on the whiteboard.
+
+If you know it was *not* assigned correctly, please reassign to either
+the correct person or to Bug Squad, and explain.
+
+Set status to ASSIGNED or put OK on the whiteboard if you don't want to
+be pinged in the same bug for the same thing again.
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+Cheers,
+marja
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>
+Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
+whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
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+<PRE>On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
+</I>&gt;<i> whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
+</I>&gt;<i> notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?
+</I>
+Yes, that would be a lot better.
+
+I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that would be a lot better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932</A>
+</I>
+Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.
+
+A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
+query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
+then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that would be a lot better.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.
+</I>
+
+Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
+</I>&gt;<i> query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
+</I>&gt;<i> then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.
+</I>
+Waiting one month to find out whether a bug was assigned correctly is
+too long, in my opinion, unless the assignee is busy gathering enough
+information to be able to tell.
+
+I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a
+confirmation that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except
+when the assignee shows activity in the report.
+
+If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on
+the whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this
+search again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately, everyone in the cc of the bugs will receive the ping, too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The only bugs that'll be pinged are that
+</I>&gt;<i> * were assigned more than 2 weeks ago
+</I>&gt;<i> * where the assignee didn't do anything to the bug since more than two weeks
+</I>&gt;<i> ago
+</I>&gt;<i> * where the assignee didn't confirm the bug was assigned correctly by either
+</I>&gt;<i> setting status to ASSIGNED or by putting OK on the whiteboard and.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bugs that are assigned to QA or Bug Squad won't be pinged, nor will Reporter
+</I>&gt;<i> = Assignee ones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enhancement requests and minor bugs won't be pinged either, nor will bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> that have the TRACKER or UPSTREAM keyword.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you're the assignee and you don't have a clue whether the bug was
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned correctly or not, please put NEEDHELP on the whiteboard.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you know it was *not* assigned correctly, please reassign to either the
+</I>&gt;<i> correct person or to Bug Squad, and explain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Set status to ASSIGNED or put OK on the whiteboard if you don't want to be
+</I>&gt;<i> pinged in the same bug for the same thing again.
+</I>
+Not sure how useful it is.
+I have received 25 emails so far in today's ping (and they keep coming).
+Some of them because I am assignee, some because I am reporter, some I am in CC.
+I probably need to take action on few of them but I currently don't
+have time to check which ones so it is likely that I will end up
+ignoring them all...
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)
+</I>
+No, it works in the current setup.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Waiting one month to find out whether a bug was assigned correctly is too
+</I>&gt;<i> long, in my opinion, unless the assignee is busy gathering enough
+</I>&gt;<i> information to be able to tell.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
+</I>&gt;<i> that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
+</I>&gt;<i> shows activity in the report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
+</I>&gt;<i> whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
+</I>&gt;<i> again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.
+</I>
+We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
+and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
+month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
+checked out of the query.
+
+Shall we try that?
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+<PRE>On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> (removed -discuss from the discussion)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, it works in the current setup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shows activity in the report.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
+</I>&gt;<i> and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
+</I>&gt;<i> month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> checked out of the query.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we try that?
+</I>
+Well, if you replace &quot;bi-monthly&quot; by &quot;twice a month&quot; (that seems to be
+what you mean), then: yes, please!
+
+Bi-monthly doesn't have a fixed meaning
+<A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly</A> ;)
+
+Thanks a lot, Romain :)
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+&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Shall we try that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if you replace &quot;bi-monthly&quot; by &quot;twice a month&quot; (that seems to be what
+</I>&gt;<i> you mean), then: yes, please!
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+Ok, test will go in a few minutes to all current assignees that have
+bugs matching your query (I had to duplicate it to my own account).
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+&gt;<i> Hello all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are currently a backlog of 30 updates which have been validated and
+</I>&gt;<i> are waiting to be pushed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are any sysadmins on the list? Could somebody push these please.
+</I>
+It would be better to ask on sysadmin list, anyway I could not find
+the procedure to push updates :(
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+<PRE>---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: 2012/7/8
+Subject: [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+Hello all
+
+There are currently a backlog of 30 updates which have been validated
+and are waiting to be pushed.
+
+Are any sysadmins on the list? Could somebody push these please.
+
+Thanks
+Claire
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:14 AM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 2792 Author dmorgan Date 2012-07-09 10:14:23 +0200 (Mon, 09 Jul
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enable check on mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp 2012-07-09 08:12:15 UTC (rev 2791)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp 2012-07-09 08:14:23 UTC (rev 2792)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -32,6 +32,16 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> minute =&gt; 30
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + youri-check::config {'config_2':
+</I>&gt;<i> + version =&gt; '2',
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> + youri-check::check {'check_2':
+</I>&gt;<i> + version =&gt; '2',
+</I>&gt;<i> + hour =&gt; '*/2',
+</I>&gt;<i> + minute =&gt; 30
+</I>
+That's not a good idea to run it at the same time than 1, it will load
+the machine which is why it does not run at the same time than
+cauldron
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+<PRE>05.07.2012 18:34, Damien Lallement skrev:&gt; Here comes a new
+configuration with all remarks taken in account:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI, we had:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> The bad points of the server we had were:
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+</I>&gt;<i> - big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+</I>&gt;<i> The good points were:
+</I>&gt;<i> - 16 GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2x2TB of HDD
+</I>&gt;<i> - HW raid
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I made a NEW configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R320 and all your
+</I>remarks:
+&gt;<i> - CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10M, 6.4GT/s, No Turbo, 4C, 80W
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is a link to compare the actual CPU of rabbit and the new one:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614">http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614</A>
+</I>
+So we gained 340 MHz / core if we ignore Turbo mode, but we also
+lost hyperthreading... so compressing livecds will most likely
+be any faster.
+
+&gt;<i> - RAM: 32GB DDR3 1333MHz (16GB on the previous proposal)
+</I>
+OK
+
+&gt;<i> - HDD controller: PERC H710 RAID Controller, 512MB NV Cache, (HW RAID)
+</I>
+Nice controller.
+
+&gt;<i> - HDD: 2 x 1TB Near-Line SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 7.2k (in RAID 1)
+</I>
+Back to sata speed disks
+
+&gt;<i> - iDRAC7 Express (not on the previous proposal)
+</I>
+Nice
+
+&gt;<i> - Dual Hot Plug Power Supplies 350W (not on the previous proposal)
+</I>
+Nice
+
+&gt;<i> Cost: ~2800 &#8364; without taxes*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * I asked a reduction to Dell. Stay tuned!
+</I>&gt;<i> So, WDYT about this NEW proposal?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'd rather take the old one then, add 2x300GB in raid1 and 2x300 in
+raid0, and add 32GB ram to that one...
+
+
+Or as a different proposal...
+
+What if we make ecosse our new rabbit ?
+
+It has dual Xeon 5000 series Quad core running at 2.66 / core
+(so 8 real cores available)
+
+It currently has 8GB of RAM
+
+We would need to buy:
+- a new disk controller (as the current integrated ESB2 one sucks)
+- 2 &gt;= 300GB SATA disks for system, frozen repo and readybuilt isos
+- 1 ~250GB SATA SSD for iso builds
+- maybe some more RAM
+
+The cash saved could be used instead for the replacement &gt;= jonund-class
+buildhost.
+
+Would that work ?
+
+--
+Thomas
+
+
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:14 AM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 2792 Author dmorgan Date 2012-07-09 10:14:23 +0200 (Mon, 09 Jul
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Enable check on mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp 2012-07-09 08:12:15 UTC (rev 2791)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ puppet/manifests/nodes/rabbit.pp 2012-07-09 08:14:23 UTC (rev 2792)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -32,6 +32,16 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> minute =&gt; 30
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + youri-check::config {'config_2':
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + version =&gt; '2',
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + youri-check::check {'check_2':
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + version =&gt; '2',
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + hour =&gt; '*/2',
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + minute =&gt; 30
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not a good idea to run it at the same time than 1, it will load
+</I>&gt;<i> the machine which is why it does not run at the same time than
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron
+</I>
+yes i didn't though about this. Thanks for your fix
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+<PRE>On Mon, 09 Jul 2012, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 05.07.2012 18:34, Damien Lallement skrev:&gt; Here comes a new
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration with all remarks taken in account:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; FYI, we had:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-professionnel-dell.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The bad points of the server we had were:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - &quot;small&quot; and old CPU as it was a &quot;green&quot; and old server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - big IO trouble as HDD are in SATA only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The good points were:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 16 GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - 2x2TB of HDD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HW raid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I made a NEW configuration with a Dell PowerEdge R320 and all your
+</I>&gt;<i> remarks:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2407 2.20GHz, 10M, 6.4GT/s, No Turbo, 4C, 80W
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here is a link to compare the actual CPU of rabbit and the new one:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614">http://ark.intel.com/compare/43233,52275,64614</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we gained 340 MHz / core if we ignore Turbo mode, but we also
+</I>&gt;<i> lost hyperthreading... so compressing livecds will most likely
+</I>&gt;<i> be any faster.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - RAM: 32GB DDR3 1333MHz (16GB on the previous proposal)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD controller: PERC H710 RAID Controller, 512MB NV Cache, (HW RAID)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice controller.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - HDD: 2 x 1TB Near-Line SAS 6Gbps, 3&quot;5 7.2k (in RAID 1)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Back to sata speed disks
+</I>
+Problem is that SAS disks are very expensive. So it increases the price
+a lot.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - iDRAC7 Express (not on the previous proposal)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Dual Hot Plug Power Supplies 350W (not on the previous proposal)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cost: ~2800 &#8364; without taxes*
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * I asked a reduction to Dell. Stay tuned!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, WDYT about this NEW proposal?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd rather take the old one then, add 2x300GB in raid1 and 2x300 in
+</I>&gt;<i> raid0, and add 32GB ram to that one...
+</I>
+The old one (R210 II) with 4*300GB and 32GB of ram costs 3 695 euros
+(without tax).
+
+It's 420 euros for each 300GB disk, so we have 1680 euros of disks.
+600 GB disks are at 510 euros each. Unfortunatly 300GB disks are not a
+lot cheaper than 600GB ones.
+
+Switching from 16GB (4*4GB) to 32GB (4*8GB) of ram adds 1223 euros.
+
+On R320, 16GB RDIMM costs 295 euros. Maybe if we have 32GB of ram, we
+can use 16GB for tmpfs to store temporary build files, and it can
+compensate not having SAS disks ? Or 48 or 64GB ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or as a different proposal...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What if we make ecosse our new rabbit ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It has dual Xeon 5000 series Quad core running at 2.66 / core
+</I>&gt;<i> (so 8 real cores available)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It currently has 8GB of RAM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would need to buy:
+</I>&gt;<i> - a new disk controller (as the current integrated ESB2 one sucks)
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2 &gt;= 300GB SATA disks for system, frozen repo and readybuilt isos
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1 ~250GB SATA SSD for iso builds
+</I>&gt;<i> - maybe some more RAM
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The cash saved could be used instead for the replacement &gt;= jonund-class
+</I>&gt;<i> buildhost.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would that work ?
+</I>
+Problem with this solution is that bios on ecosse seems to be buggy, so
+we are not sure that adding a new disk controller will work. So spending
+some money to buy a good disk controller can be risky.
+
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+From: Stefano Negro &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">stblack at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: 10 July 2012 19:23
+Subject: [Mageia-dev] New mirror in Italy
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+
+Hi all
+I'd like to inform that we have a new mirror in Italy.
+Just start synchronization today at 15pm.
+I have filled in the mirrors.mageia.org.
+I hope that this could increase the Italian community as all
+initiatives all the team did.
+
+Cheers
+Stefano
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>So after some discussions on IRC with coincoin, tmb and pterjan, it was
+decided to buy this server from Dell to replace rabbit :
+
+Dell PowerEdge R320
+3.5&quot; Chassis with up to 4 Hot Plug Hard Drives
+Intel&#174; Xeon&#174; E5-2430 2.20GHz, 15M Cache, 7.2GT/s , Turbo, 6C, 95W
+3 x 16GB RDIMM, 1333 MHz, Low Volt, Dual Rank, x4
+RAID 1 for H310/H710, 2 SAS/SATA/SSD HDDs
+PERC H310 Integrated RAID Controller, Mini-type
+2 x 1TB, Near-Line SAS 6Gbps, 3.5-in, 7.2K RPM Hard Drive (Hot Plug)
+Dual Hot Plug Power Supplies 350W
+iDRAC7 Express
+
+For around 3 260 &#8364; without tax. But we hope to have some discount from
+Dell, so it should be a little cheaper.
+
+This server will be used to build DVD and LiveCD ISOs. It will also be
+used when there is no ISO builds to do full rebuilds of the distribution.
+
+The server does not have SAS disks but only Near-Line SAS. However with
+48GB of RAM, we should be able to build ISOs and do package rebuilds
+inside a tmpfs, so this should compensate not having SAS disks.
+
+The next topic is now the server to replace ecosse, and coincoin is
+preparing a proposal for this server.
+
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 2:1.7.5-5.mga3:
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+Looks like this happen often recently.
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+&gt;<i> On 14 July 2012 10:54, wally&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wally&lt;wally&gt; 2:1.7.5-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 270689
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild due to a missing i586 pkgs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks like this happen often recently.
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be better to fix the root cause in the BS
+</I>
+If I'm not wrong it's fixed, due to /tmp filesystem too small
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+&gt;<i> Le 14/07/2012 13:27, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 July 2012 10:54, wally&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wally&lt;wally&gt; 2:1.7.5-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 270689
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild due to a missing i586 pkgs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looks like this happen often recently.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be better to fix the root cause in the BS
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I'm not wrong it's fixed, due to /tmp filesystem too small
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hm, why is it using /tmp at all ?
+
+It should use the fast ssd for everything...
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+&gt;<i> 14.07.2012 14:58, Anne Nicolas skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 14/07/2012 13:27, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 July 2012 10:54, wally&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wally&lt;wally&gt; 2:1.7.5-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 270689
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild due to a missing i586 pkgs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looks like this happen often recently.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It would be better to fix the root cause in the BS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If I'm not wrong it's fixed, due to /tmp filesystem too small
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hm, why is it using /tmp at all ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should use the fast ssd for everything...
+</I>
+it uses the /tmp of valstar.
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+<PRE>14.07.2012 15:11, D.Morgan skrev:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 14.07.2012 14:58, Anne Nicolas skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 14/07/2012 13:27, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 July 2012 10:54, wally&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wally&lt;wally&gt; 2:1.7.5-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 270689
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild due to a missing i586 pkgs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looks like this happen often recently.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It would be better to fix the root cause in the BS
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If I'm not wrong it's fixed, due to /tmp filesystem too small
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, why is it using /tmp at all ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should use the fast ssd for everything...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it uses the /tmp of valstar.
+</I>
+
+Ah, it was valstar rpmlint that was failing... that explains it, thanks..
+
+Maybe we should make /tmp a separate partition and add monitoring on it.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, why is it using /tmp at all ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should use the fast ssd for everything...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it uses the /tmp of valstar.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, it was valstar rpmlint that was failing... that explains it, thanks..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should make /tmp a separate partition and add monitoring on it.
+</I>
+And check rpmlint result.
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+<PRE>Le 05/07/2012 17:34, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien started looking at a server to replace ecosse, and will send a
+</I>&gt;<i> proposal soon.
+</I>
+Here is my proposal:
+- Chassis : PowerEdge R620 x8 Base (1U)
+- CPU #1 : Intel Xeon E5-2640 2.50GHz, 15M, 7.2GT/s, Turbo, 6C, 95W
+- CPU #2 : Intel Xeon E5-2640 2.50GHz, 15M, 7.2GT/s, Turbo, 6C, 95W
+- RAM : 2 x 8GB RDIMM, 1333 MHz, Low Volt, Dual Rank, x4
+- RAID : Perc H310 (RAID 1)
+- HDD : 2 x 250GB, SATA, 2.5, 7.2K (for /, we have a SSD for build)
+- PS : Dual, Hot-plug, Redundant Power Supply (1+1), 495W
+- BMC : iDRAC7 Express
+- Bezel + rails 2/4
+Price without tax and without rabates: ~ 4030 &#8364;
+
+For now, ecosse:
+- Chassis : SuperMicro 2U
+- CPU #1 : Intel Xeon 5150 2.66GHz, 4M, 2C, HT
+- CPU #1 : Intel Xeon 5150 2.66GHz, 4M, 2C, HT
+- RAM : 2 x 4GB DDR2 no low voltage
+- Soft RAID (use 1 CPU core...)
+- HDD : 2 x 160GB, SATA, 3.5, 7.2K (for /, we have a SSD for build)
+- no dual Power Supply
+- no BMC
+- no bezel and no rails
+--
+Damien Lallement
+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
+
+
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+Thanks
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+&gt;<i> I noticed that this page is gone. I was actively using that. Can I have
+</I>&gt;<i> it back?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What do you mean ?
+
+<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates_gnome.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates_gnome.html</A>
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+--
+
+Thomas
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:58:36PM +0300, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> 19.07.2012 22:38, Olav Vitters skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I noticed that this page is gone. I was actively using that. Can I have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it back?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you mean ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates_gnome.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates_gnome.html</A>
+</I>
+Heh. I was sure I didn't see it earlier today.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:58:36PM +0300, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 19.07.2012 22:38, Olav Vitters skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I noticed that this page is gone. I was actively using that. Can I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it back?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you mean ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates_gnome.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/updates_gnome.html</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Heh. I was sure I didn't see it earlier today.
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+Empty pages don't exist, maybe it found no update at that time
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+For rabbit.mageia.org:
+2 770.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 3 260.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+
+For ecosse.mageia.org:
+3 505.00 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 4 035.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+
+Final price:
+6 365.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 7 295.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+We earn 929.50 &#8364;
+Taxes: 1 247.64 &#8364;
+Shipment: 90.00 &#8364;
+Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+
+So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+--
+Damien Lallement
+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
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+H&amp;C Printing Center Ltd of China, founded in 2003, is an experienced
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+periodical magazines, brochures, flyers, children&#8217;s books, calendars,
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+Based on our quality goods, first-rank services, and lowest prices and fast
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>
+If you think this is what we need to improve developers/packagers
+experience and time, and strengthen our infrastructure, go, we can
+afford it.
+
+We have about ~12 k&#8364; in cash at this time (end of July, financial
+report not yet updated); we will be at ~5 k&#8364; after this - low given
+the provisions we might need and some other marketing expenses, but we
+should be able to get back to 10k by December.
+
+Question: do you expect/plan for other server/hosting expenses in the
+coming months? (and what about next year?)
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi people,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For rabbit.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 770.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 3 260.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For ecosse.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> 3 505.00 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 4 035.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Final price:
+</I>&gt;<i> 6 365.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 7 295.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;<i> We earn 929.50 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i> Taxes: 1 247.64 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i> Shipment: 90.00 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>
+For me, this looks like a good proposal.
+
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+<PRE>Le 23/07/2012 15:30, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you think this is what we need to improve developers/packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> experience and time, and strengthen our infrastructure, go, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> afford it.
+</I>
+Yes it is!
+Thank you for your quick answer.
+
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Question: do you expect/plan for other server/hosting expenses in the
+</I>&gt;<i> coming months? (and what about next year?)
+</I>
+No big expenses in a near future (if all servers are running well...).
+The only planned expense: buy 2 new Gandi.net hosting parts for the
+migration test of champagne and krampouezh (a few euro: less than 5!).
+And pay one month for rabbit (while the new rabbit is not installed).
+
+Of course, we have to plan a trip to Marseille for servers
+installations. I think, it will be arround 400 &#8364;.
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+<PRE>Is there a way to monitor/track power consumption of our systems
+hosted in Marseille DC?
+
+Two goals in sight: having an idea of: how it looks over time &amp; the
+cost it represents (the latter can be included in our provision needs
+then).
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+&gt;<i> Is there a way to monitor/track power consumption of our systems
+</I>&gt;<i> hosted in Marseille DC?
+</I>
+Not for now but I hope it will be possible with new HW.
+Perhaps we can bring 2 watt-meters (dual power-supply on servers) in
+Marseille to have an idea next time.
+We just know the max TDP for each new servers.
+
+FYI, for new servers, I choosed HW depending on power and consumption.
+
+&gt;<i>[...]
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+Dams
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+&gt;<i> Hi people,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For rabbit.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 770.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 3 260.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For ecosse.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> 3 505.00 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 4 035.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Final price:
+</I>&gt;<i> 6 365.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 7 295.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;<i> We earn 929.50 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i> Taxes: 1 247.64 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i> Shipment: 90.00 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>
+Hi Damien,
+
+What are these servers going to be used for?
+
+Thanks
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+--
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+&gt;<i> Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi people,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For rabbit.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2 770.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 3 260.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For ecosse.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3 505.00 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 4 035.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Final price:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 6 365.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 7 295.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We earn 929.50 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Taxes: 1 247.64 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Shipment: 90.00 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What are these servers going to be used for?
+</I>
+(gah, I found back by glasses)
+
+Can't we reuse the RAM from the old servers?
+Isn't 48GB a bit too much for rabbit?
+
+About disk for rabbit, 2 x 1TB SAS seems quite big, I presume SAS is
+pretty expensive over SATA. We could probably use smaller SAS disks, and
+have a bigger SATA one, since most of the disk usage for live systems on
+rabbit was for backup of &quot;continuous&quot; builds.
+
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+<PRE>Olivier Blin skrev 23.7.2012 22:51:
+&gt;<i> Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi people,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For rabbit.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2 770.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 3 260.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For ecosse.mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3 505.00 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 4 035.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Final price:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 6 365.50 &#8364; (without taxes) instead of 7 295.00 &#8364; (w/o taxes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We earn 929.50 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Taxes: 1 247.64 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Shipment: 90.00 &#8364;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What are these servers going to be used for?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (gah, I found back by glasses)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can't we reuse the RAM from the old servers?
+</I>&gt;<i> Isn't 48GB a bit too much for rabbit?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We plan on building isos on tmpfs... to get fast speed without being
+I/O bound... and adding more ram is cheaper than fast disks...
+
+&gt;<i> About disk for rabbit, 2 x 1TB SAS seems quite big, I presume SAS is
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty expensive over SATA. We could probably use smaller SAS disks, and
+</I>
+They are nearline SAS (wich is SATA disks in dsiguise with SAS firmware)
+
+&gt;<i> have a bigger SATA one, since most of the disk usage for live systems on
+</I>&gt;<i> rabbit was for backup of &quot;continuous&quot; builds.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+--
+
+Thomas
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+<PRE>I cannot compile drakx-installer-stage2 b/c BS now fails to install
+lvm2 &amp; dmraid:
+See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120724103609.tv.valstar.9916/log/drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120724103609.tv.valstar.9916/log/drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3/</A>
+
+D: [iurt_root_command] chroot
+error: Failed build dependencies:
+ lvm2 is needed by drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.x86_64
+ dmraid is needed by drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.x86_64
+Installing /home/iurt/rpm/SRPMS/@274005:drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.src.rpm
+I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: chroot
+
+
+ 174/417: dmraid #############################################
+error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/dmraid: cpio:
+mkdir failed - No such file or directory
+error: dmraid-1.0.0-0.rc16.9.mga2.x86_64: install failed
+(...)
+ 412/417: lvm2 #############################################
+error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/lvm: cpio: mkdir
+failed - No such file or directory
+error: lvm2-2.02.95-4.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+
+Please fix &amp; resubmit d-i-stage2
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 24/07/12 12:09 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I cannot compile drakx-installer-stage2 b/c BS now fails to install
+</I>&gt;<i> lvm2 &amp; dmraid:
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120724103609.tv.valstar.9916/log/drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120724103609.tv.valstar.9916/log/drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> D: [iurt_root_command] chroot
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Failed build dependencies:
+</I>&gt;<i> lvm2 is needed by drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> dmraid is needed by drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> Installing /home/iurt/rpm/SRPMS/@274005:drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: chroot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 174/417: dmraid #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/dmraid: cpio:
+</I>&gt;<i> mkdir failed - No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> error: dmraid-1.0.0-0.rc16.9.mga2.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i> 412/417: lvm2 #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/lvm: cpio: mkdir
+</I>&gt;<i> failed - No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> error: lvm2-2.02.95-4.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please fix &amp; resubmit d-i-stage2
+</I>
+Ahh yes.... no package should package anything in /var/lock or /var/run.
+I have generally been fixing them as I didn't think they would cause any
+problems but /var/lock stuff will :s
+
+I'll see what I can do.
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 24/07/12 12:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 24/07/12 12:09 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I cannot compile drakx-installer-stage2 b/c BS now fails to install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lvm2 &amp; dmraid:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120724103609.tv.valstar.9916/log/drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120724103609.tv.valstar.9916/log/drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D: [iurt_root_command] chroot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: Failed build dependencies:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lvm2 is needed by drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dmraid is needed by drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Installing /home/iurt/rpm/SRPMS/@274005:drakx-installer-stage2-14.31-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: chroot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 174/417: dmraid #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/dmraid: cpio:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mkdir failed - No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: dmraid-1.0.0-0.rc16.9.mga2.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 412/417: lvm2 #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock/lvm: cpio: mkdir
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> failed - No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: lvm2-2.02.95-4.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please fix &amp; resubmit d-i-stage2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahh yes.... no package should package anything in /var/lock or /var/run.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have generally been fixing them as I didn't think they would cause any
+</I>&gt;<i> problems but /var/lock stuff will :s
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll see what I can do.
+</I>
+
+OK, seems to be behaving better now. I've submitted d-i-stage2 again.
+Fingers crossed!
+
+I just did the minimum needed here, I didn't change libs or bin paths
+etc. in dmraid or lvm2 packages, but this could probably be done and
+simplify the packaging. We likely also do not need static versions these
+days (I noticed a dmsetup-static and dmsetup.static) seeing as dracut
+takes care of mounting things in initrd and we do not support /usr
+mounts except when they are already mounted in the initrd.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 23/07/2012 15:30, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you think this is what we need to improve developers/packagers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> experience and time, and strengthen our infrastructure, go, we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> afford it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes it is!
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for your quick answer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Question: do you expect/plan for other server/hosting expenses in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> coming months? (and what about next year?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No big expenses in a near future (if all servers are running well...).
+</I>&gt;<i> The only planned expense: buy 2 new Gandi.net hosting parts for the
+</I>&gt;<i> migration test of champagne and krampouezh (a few euro: less than 5!).
+</I>&gt;<i> And pay one month for rabbit (while the new rabbit is not installed).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, we have to plan a trip to Marseille for servers installations. I
+</I>&gt;<i> think, it will be arround 400 &#8364;.
+</I>
+For this trip, we plan to go there for two days, the 27th and 28th of
+August, by train, with 3 people (coincoin, rtp, me). Cost for train
+is around 300 euros. Cost for hotel will be around 80 euros.
+
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+&gt;<i> Le 23/07/2012 15:30, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total price: 7 613,14 &#8364; for this 2 new powerful servers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, do you agree or disagree with this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you think this is what we need to improve developers/packagers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> experience and time, and strengthen our infrastructure, go, we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> afford it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes it is!
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for your quick answer.
+</I>
+Order sent &amp; paid today.
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+&gt;<i> Order sent &amp; paid today.
+</I>
+And confirmed. Will be shipped in time.
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+&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:4.10.0-8.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 276795
+</I>&gt;<i> - patch 4000: merge find-debuginfo.sh changes from rpm-mageia-setup
+</I>&gt;<i> - temporary disable test suite as the full build takes 5mn locally &amp; on 32bits
+</I>&gt;<i> BS but 2 hours on jonud 64bit
+</I>
+Can someone who has access to the BS can check why the build is that slow when
+the testsuite is run on x86_64 (2mn vs 2 hours !!!!)
+
+24 minutes ago tv rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3 cauldron core/release
+ uploaded 2 minutes
+6 hours ago tv rpm-4.10.0-7.mga3 cauldron core/release uploaded 2 hours
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 31 July 2012 18:02, tv &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:4.10.0-8.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 276795
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - patch 4000: merge find-debuginfo.sh changes from rpm-mageia-setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - temporary disable test suite as the full build takes 5mn locally &amp; on 32bits
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BS but 2 hours on jonud 64bit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone who has access to the BS can check why the build is that slow when
+</I>&gt;<i> the testsuite is run on x86_64 (2mn vs 2 hours !!!!)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 24 minutes ago tv rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3 cauldron core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> uploaded 2 minutes
+</I>&gt;<i> 6 hours ago tv rpm-4.10.0-7.mga3 cauldron core/release uploaded 2 hours
+</I>
+This is the difference between the submit time and the completion of build.
+It does not seem related to tests.
+It has tried and failed many time to create the chroot on jonund:
+
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/done/cauldron/core/release/20120731105402.tv.valstar.5433/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/done/cauldron/core/release/20120731105402.tv.valstar.5433/</A>
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20--%20%20CONGRATULATIONS%21%20%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120731162051.28322.qmail%40www.politik24.de%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] -- CONGRATULATIONS! !">facebooklotteryty at INFO.ORG
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Jul 31 18:20:51 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>
+CONGRATULATIONS! !
+
+Welcome to the official site of the FACEBOOK&#174; Seasons
+Promotions.FACEBOOK LOTTERY PROMOTION !!!
+The Online Consumer Promotions 2012.
+European Region Office:
+10B Widemarsh Street
+Hereford Square,
+London HP1 8HFD,
+England.
+<A HREF="http://www.facebook.com">http://www.facebook.com</A>
+
+BATCH NUMBER: FB/8056490902.
+REF NUMBER: FB/UK/2012.
+
+CONGRATULATIONS!
+
+CONGRATULATIONS! !
+
+AWARD NOTIFICATION.
+
+We happily announce to you the draw of the FACEBOOK&#174; Lottery Promotions for the year 2012, at our Lotto Draw Headquarters London, United Kingdom organized by FACEBOOK&#174;. This is to inform you that you have won a prize money of GBP.&#163;500.000.00(five hundred thousand, British Pounds Sterling).
+
+FACEBOOK Promo Inc. arranged and gathered some of all the E-mail addresses of the people that are active online, among the millions that subscribed to all E-mail Providers most especially Yahoo, Gmail, Gawabmail, AOLMAIL,Hotmail and many other E-mail domain, we only selected Twenty (20) candidates per-annually as our winners through Electronic Balloting System (EBS) without the candidate applying, we congratulate you for being one of our lucky winners. Our winners includes both subscribers and non subscribers FACEBOOK&#174;.
+
+You will definitely receive your money from our bank, without any
+problem.
+
+FACEBOOK did this in appreciation to encourage people to use there services. You will receive the amount you won, GBP.&#163;500,000 (Five Hundred Thousand, British Pounds Sterling).
+
+PAYMENT OF PRIZE AND CLAIMS:
+
+Your Approval File was sent to London United Kingdom due to we have 3 lucky winners in London, so that you can be cleared and paid simultaneously there.
+
+You are to contact our London United Kingdom Location Claim Office on or before your date of Claim, so that he will direct you on how you will receive your money in London.
+
+FACEBOOK Lottery Prize must be claimed not later than 7days from date of Draw Notification after the Draw date in which Prize has won.
+
+Note: Any prize not claimed within this period (7 days) will be
+forfeited.
+
+These are your identification numbers:
+Ticket number: 00545 188 564756,
+Prize #77801209/N,
+WINNING NUMBER: FB/575061725.
+Serial number 5368/02
+Lucky numbers: 17 98 09 67 46
+
+HOW TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE;
+
+Simply contact our Customer Service Information Headquarters (C.S.I.H Department),he will direct you on the bank that will pay you there in United Kingdom, after clarification.
+Rev.(Sir) Albert Klein.
+E-mail: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">albertklein at consultant.com</A>
+Tel: +447024033752.
+
+CONGRATULATIONS! !
+
+IMPORTANT NOTICE.
+
+Send these following information to the C.S.I.H Department immediately for further procession.
+
+1 Full Name: ............................
+2 Telephone Number:......................
+3 Contact Address:.......................
+4 Date of birth :........................
+5 Age:...................................
+6 Occupation:............................
+7 Sex:...................................
+8 Marital Status:........................
+9 Country of Origin:.....................
+10 Winning Number:.......................
+11 Serial number:........................
+12 Lucky numbers:........................
+
+KEEP THIS PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL YOU RECEIVE YOUR PRIZE MONEY.
+NOTE THAT NOBODY OR EVEN THE APPOINTED BANK HAS THE RIGHT TO TOUCH, DEDUCT OR GET ACCESS TO YOUR PRIZE MONEY FOR ANY REASON THEY HAVE BEEN WARNED STRICTLY!
+
+The total amount of money you will receive is GBP.&#163;500.000.00 (Five Hundred Thousand, British Pounds Sterling).
+
+For security reasons, we advice all winners to keep this information confidential from the public until your claim is processed and your prize released to you. This is part of our security protocol to avoid double claiming and unwarranted taking advantage of this program by non-participant or unofficial personnel.
+
+Congratulations once again on your winnings!!!
+Yours in service,
+Prof. Wilcox Bruce.
+
+
+If you have questions or wish to claim your prize money kindly contact Rev.(Sir).Albert Klein At...., <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">albertklein at consultant.com</A>; see the instructions at the body of this message.
+
+CONGRATULATIONS! !
+
+Copyright &#169; 2012 FACEBOOK&#174; Promotions!!!
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+///////////////////////////////////////////////
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+HERZLICHEN GL&#220;CKWUNSCH! !
+
+Willkommen auf der offiziellen Website des Facebook &#174; Seasons
+Promotions.FACEBOOK LOTTERIE PROMOTION!
+Die Online Consumer Promotions 2012.
+Europ&#228;ischen Region der Gesellschaft:
+10B Widemarsh Stra&#223;e
+Hereford Square,
+London 8HFD HP1,
+England.
+<A HREF="http://www.facebook.com">http://www.facebook.com</A>
+
+Chargennummer: FB/8056490902.
+REF-Nummer: FB/UK/2012.
+
+HERZLICHEN GL&#220;CKWUNSCH!
+
+HERZLICHEN GL&#220;CKWUNSCH! !
+
+AWARD NOTIFICATION.
+
+Wir gl&#252;cklich zu verk&#252;nden die Auslosung der Facebook &#174; Lottery Promotions f&#252;r das Jahr 2012, in unserem Lotto-Ziehung Hauptsitz London, Vereinigtes K&#246;nigreich von Facebook &#174; organisiert. Hiermit m&#246;chten wir Sie informieren, dass Sie ein Preisgeld in H&#246;he von GBP gewonnen. GBP.&#163;500.000.00 &#163; (500.000, British Pound Sterling).
+
+FACEBOOK Promo Inc. angeordnet und einige von allen E-Mail-Adressen der Personen, die online aktiv sind versammelt, unter den Millionen, die auf alle E-Mail-Anbieter ganz besonders Yahoo, Gmail, Gawabmail, AOLMAIL, Hotmail und viele andere abonnierte E- Mail-Dom&#228;ne, haben wir nur ausgew&#228;hlte Zwanzig (20) Kandidaten pro Jahr als unsere Gewinner durch elektronische Abstimmungsverfahren System (EBS) ohne Anwendung des Kandidaten, wir gratulieren Ihnen, dass einer unserer gl&#252;cklichen Gewinner. Unsere Gewinner sind sowohl Abonnenten und Nicht-Abonnenten Facebook &#174;.
+
+Sie werden auf jeden Fall erhalten Sie Ihr Geld von unserer Bank, ohne dass
+Problem.
+
+FACEBOOK tat dies in Anerkennung an Menschen zu ermutigen, dort Dienste zu nutzen. Sie erhalten den Betrag, den Sie gewonnen, GBP.&#163; 500.000.00 (f&#252;nfhunderttausend, British Pound Sterling).
+
+ZAHLUNG DER PREIS und Forderungen:
+
+Ihre Zustimmung Datei wurde nach London Vereinigtes K&#246;nigreich wegen haben wir 3 gl&#252;cklichen Gewinner in London geschickt, so dass Sie gel&#246;scht werden kann und gleichzeitig dort bezahlt.
+
+Sie sind zu unserem London Vereinigtes K&#246;nigreich Ort Anspruch auf B&#252;ro oder vor Ihrer Ankunft im Anspruch an, so dass er euch zu leiten, wie Sie Ihr Geld in London empfangen.
+
+FACEBOOK Lotteriegewinn muss sp&#228;testens 7 Tage ab dem Datum der Benachrichtigung Zeichnen nach der Auslosung Zeitpunkt, in dem Preis gewonnen hat geltend gemacht werden.
+
+Hinweis: Jeder Preis nicht geltend innerhalb dieser Frist (7 Tage) wird
+verwirkt.
+
+Dies sind Ihre Identifikationsnummern:
+Ticket-Nummer: 00545 188 564756,
+Preis # 77801209 / N,
+GEWINNENDE ZAHL: FB/575061725.
+Seriennummer 5368/02
+Gl&#252;ckszahlen: 17 98 09 67 46
+
+Wie fordern Sie Ihren Preis;
+
+Kontaktieren Sie einfach unseren Kundenservice Informationen Headquarters (CSIH Abteilung), wird er euch auf der Bank, die Sie bezahlen wird es in Gro&#223;britannien, nach Kl&#228;rung zu lenken.
+Rev. (Sir) Albert Klein.
+E-mail: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">albertklein at consultant.com</A>
+Tel.: 447024033752.
+
+HERZLICHEN GL&#220;CKWUNSCH! !
+
+WICHTIGER HINWEIS.
+
+Senden Sie diese folgende Informationen an die Abteilung CSIH sofort f&#252;r weitere Prozession.
+
+1 Vollst&#228;ndiger Name: ............................
+2 Telefon-Nummer: ......................
+3 Kontakt Adresse: .......................
+4 Geburtsdatum: ........................
+5 Alter: ...................................
+6 Beruf: ............................
+7 Geschlecht: ...................................
+8 Familienstand: ........................
+9 Herkunftsland: .....................
+10 Winning-Nummer: .......................
+11 Seriennummer: ........................
+12 Gl&#252;ckszahlen: ........................
+
+HALTEN SIE DIESE PRIVAT UND VERTRAULICH, bis Sie Ihr Preisgeld.
+BEACHTEN SIE, DASS NIEMAND ODER SOGAR Der bestellte Bank das Recht vor BER&#220;HREN, abzuziehen oder Zugang zu Ihrem PREISGELD aus irgendeinem Grund sie gewarnt wurden als Ausschlusskriterien ein MUSS!
+
+Die Gesamtmenge des Geldes erhalten Sie betr&#228;gt GBP.&#163; 500.000.00 (f&#252;nfhunderttausend, British Pound Sterling).
+
+Aus Sicherheitsgr&#252;nden raten wir alle Gewinner, diese Informationen vertraulich von der &#214;ffentlichkeit, bis Ihr Anspruch bearbeitet und ver&#246;ffentlicht, um Ihren Preis zu Ihnen. Dies ist Teil unserer Sicherheitsprotokoll, um Doppelerfassungen und ungerechtfertigten Ausnutzung dieses Programms durch Nicht-Teilnehmer oder inoffizielle Mitarbeiter zu vermeiden.
+
+Herzlichen Gl&#252;ckwunsch noch einmal auf Ihre Gewinne!
+Yours in Service,
+Prof. Bruce Wilcox.
+
+
+Wenn Sie Fragen haben oder m&#246;chten Ihr Preisgeld behaupten kontaktieren Sie bitte Rev. (Sir) Albert Klein bei ...., <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">albertklein at consultant.com</A>;. Lesen Sie die Anweisungen auf dem K&#246;rper dieser Nachricht.
+
+HERZLICHEN GL&#220;CKWUNSCH! !
+
+Copyright &#169; 2012 Facebook &#174; Promotions!
+
+
+
+</PRE>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jul 2 02:29:44 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 60<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-sysadm] -- CONGRATULATIONS! !
+</A><A NAME="4585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>FACEBOOK LOTTERY BOARD.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-sysadm] admin HC&#19982;&#24744;&#20849;&#20139;&#20102;&#29031;&#29255;
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>admin HC
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-sysadm] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004571.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-sysadm] CAN I TRUST YOU?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mrs Steve Linda
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] New mirror in Italy
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004572.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Aug 1 17:36:20 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <hr>
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+ <h1>July 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jul 2 02:29:44 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 60<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-sysadm] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] New mirror in Italy
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-sysadm] CAN I TRUST YOU?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mrs Steve Linda
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-sysadm] admin HC&#19982;&#24744;&#20849;&#20139;&#20102;&#29031;&#29255;
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>admin HC
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004571.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004572.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-sysadm] -- CONGRATULATIONS! !
+</A><A NAME="4585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>FACEBOOK LOTTERY BOARD.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Aug 1 17:36:20 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>July 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jul 2 02:29:44 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 60<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-sysadm] -- CONGRATULATIONS! !
+</A><A NAME="4585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>FACEBOOK LOTTERY BOARD.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004571.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-sysadm] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-sysadm] admin HC&#19982;&#24744;&#20849;&#20139;&#20102;&#29031;&#29255;
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>admin HC
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-sysadm] CAN I TRUST YOU?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mrs Steve Linda
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004572.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] New mirror in Italy
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Aug 1 17:36:20 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>July 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jul 2 02:29:44 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 60<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01341188984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341188984-01341189308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Removal of packages from Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing
+</A><A NAME="4527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341234073- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01341234393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341234393-01341389406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341259950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341259950-01341261612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Message distribution: Authorization denied
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341428065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341428065-01341490541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01341428065-01341501005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341502467- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-sysadm] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341502467-01341860385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01341502467-01341860385-01342024151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Re: A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341502487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341502487-01342544817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Replacing ecosse
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341574977- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341574977-01341575952- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01341574977-01341575952-01341576808- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01341574977-01341575952-01341576808-01341577321- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01341574977-01341575952-01341576808-01341577321-01341578888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01341574977-01341575952-01341576808-01341577321-01341578888-01341586199- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01341574977-01341575952-01341576808-01341577321-01341578888-01341586199-01341589576- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01341574977-01341575952-01341576808-01341577321-01341578888-01341586199-01341589576-01341593437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01341574977-01341580646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341771263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01341778737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Updates waiting to be pushed
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01341830071- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341830071-01341867071- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2792] Enable check on mga2
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01342090159- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-dev] New mirror in Italy
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01342090268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] A new server to replace rabbit.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01342265233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01342265233-01342267123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01342265233-01342267123-01342267827- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01342265233-01342267123-01342267827-01342267882- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01342265233-01342267123-01342267827-01342267882-01342268216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01342265233-01342267123-01342267827-01342267882-01342268216-01342273383- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release subversion-1.7.5-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01342726724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01342726724-01342727916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01342726724-01342727916-01342728504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01342726724-01342727916-01342728504-01342788960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-sysadm] check.mageia.org updates_gnome
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01342962345- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-sysadm] CAN I TRUST YOU?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mrs Steve Linda
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01343046602- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01343046602-01343050219- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01343046602-01343050219-01343053832- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004571.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01343046602-01343050219-01343053832-01343215510- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004580.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01343046602-01343050219-01343053832-01343318268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004581.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01343046602-01343050219-01343053832-01343318268-01343661465- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004582.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [council] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01343046602-01343050854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01343046602-01343071494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01343046602-01343071494-01343073112- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01343046602-01343071494-01343073112-01343073483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Buying 2 Dell servers: final price and rebate from Dell
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01343048650- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-sysadm] admin HC&#19982;&#24744;&#20849;&#20139;&#20102;&#29031;&#29255;
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>admin HC
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01343058373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004572.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01343058373-01343063341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-sysadm] DC servers power consumption?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01343128157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01343128157-01343128391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01343128157-01343128391-01343131063- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-sysadm] BS broken by /usr move
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01343751651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004585.html">[Mageia-sysadm] -- CONGRATULATIONS! !
+</A><A NAME="4585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>FACEBOOK LOTTERY BOARD.
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01343751924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004583.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01343751924-01343752683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004584.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rpm-4.10.0-8.mga3
+</A><A NAME="4584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Jul 31 18:38:03 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Aug 1 17:36:20 CEST 2012</i>
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