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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/14e235b2/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/14e235b2/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..12132782b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/14e235b2/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/8 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div> is it possible to record the messages </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>oupss : s/record/have a rating </div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/14e235b2/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/14e235b2/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..12132782b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/14e235b2/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/8 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div> is it possible to record the messages </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>oupss : s/record/have a rating </div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/1ed71d33/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/1ed71d33/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5fb341a9b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/1ed71d33/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Ouppsss i forgot the essential : great great news calinco ;)<div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/1ed71d33/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/1ed71d33/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5fb341a9b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/1ed71d33/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Ouppsss i forgot the essential : great great news calinco ;)<div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/378aa959/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/378aa959/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f73b8fe7f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/378aa959/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +<div>My question is basically revolved around the fact that mdk / mdv has always been a pretty active community around the documentation, and in all the languages I think it does. On the other, as you point out there were clear and well defined process for creating official documentation.</div> +<div><br></div><div>On the wiki, we have all seen change so diverse content by language. This is a sign of wealth but may be unfortunate because we lost by lack of unification.</div><div>The other defect of the wiki is the feeling of unfinished work forever. (When you do not implement the same procedures as in Gentoo or Fedora). Which, by experience one realizes, is part of a source of confusion for readers, and other corporate sources of exhaustion for writers, because of criticism due to the first point.</div> +<div><br></div><div>The process you describe, and that you report to want to keep extending it, the process is professional, professional quality.</div><div><br></div><div>And I want to ask you some questions about how best to:</div> +<div>1. not frustrate the contributors to the wiki, they can participate</div><div>2. not repeat the mistakes of a wiki giving the impression of never finished (not good for users, not as nice returns for writers)</div><div> +3. not to lose local skills when they are not able to have a minimum technical English despite having all the qualities and willingness to participate</div><div><br></div><div>Hence the idea (but certainly not the best) can also enhance the professional quality documentation with translations, certainly rare in the sense other languages -> English. And not just in one direction.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/378aa959/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/378aa959/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f73b8fe7f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/378aa959/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +<div>My question is basically revolved around the fact that mdk / mdv has always been a pretty active community around the documentation, and in all the languages I think it does. On the other, as you point out there were clear and well defined process for creating official documentation.</div> +<div><br></div><div>On the wiki, we have all seen change so diverse content by language. This is a sign of wealth but may be unfortunate because we lost by lack of unification.</div><div>The other defect of the wiki is the feeling of unfinished work forever. (When you do not implement the same procedures as in Gentoo or Fedora). Which, by experience one realizes, is part of a source of confusion for readers, and other corporate sources of exhaustion for writers, because of criticism due to the first point.</div> +<div><br></div><div>The process you describe, and that you report to want to keep extending it, the process is professional, professional quality.</div><div><br></div><div>And I want to ask you some questions about how best to:</div> +<div>1. not frustrate the contributors to the wiki, they can participate</div><div>2. not repeat the mistakes of a wiki giving the impression of never finished (not good for users, not as nice returns for writers)</div><div> +3. not to lose local skills when they are not able to have a minimum technical English despite having all the qualities and willingness to participate</div><div><br></div><div>Hence the idea (but certainly not the best) can also enhance the professional quality documentation with translations, certainly rare in the sense other languages -> English. And not just in one direction.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d7fe182c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkytxI8ACgkQqrma7mdFI4qrpgCggfueRmjN6dLnUo9WhxFZpl5e +husAmgOJiqgJOVrlKodNLCWviXj3WHxq +=Tcno +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d7fe182c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkytxI8ACgkQqrma7mdFI4qrpgCggfueRmjN6dLnUo9WhxFZpl5e +husAmgOJiqgJOVrlKodNLCWviXj3WHxq +=Tcno +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/44ca4cb9/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/44ca4cb9/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ecca56543 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/44ca4cb9/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/7 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com">ennael1@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Hi<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> At this time I doubt that we would be producing hardcopy manuals but<br> +> whatever documentation we produce should be of the same or better quality<br> +> as those we produced then. That is; we should aim to use quality writing<br> +> and screenshots and regardless of anything else what is produced it should<br> +> be in a print-ready form for ease of reference.<br> +><br> +> Thoughts?<br> +<br> +</div>Sure! Just keep in mind we cannot reuse mdv documentation because of<br> +licence (at least from 2005). I spoke with Camille (from Neodoc). He<br> +seems ok to give a hand and host Calenco platform for Mageia doc. It<br> +means we would have real tool that fits doc team needs: manage<br> +documentation project, translations, writters, readers...<br> +<br> +<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Could be good but if it will be used, please remember provide some documentation how exactly to translate, also. Being not able to understand how it works (besides short-lived experiment providing PO-files for translation) was and is IMHO main reason why Mandriva documentation is translated quite a few languages.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +><br> +> John NZ<br> +><br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +<br> +--<br> +Anne<br> +<a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br> +</font></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/44ca4cb9/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/44ca4cb9/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ecca56543 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/44ca4cb9/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/7 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com">ennael1@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Hi<br> +<div class="im"><br> +> At this time I doubt that we would be producing hardcopy manuals but<br> +> whatever documentation we produce should be of the same or better quality<br> +> as those we produced then. That is; we should aim to use quality writing<br> +> and screenshots and regardless of anything else what is produced it should<br> +> be in a print-ready form for ease of reference.<br> +><br> +> Thoughts?<br> +<br> +</div>Sure! Just keep in mind we cannot reuse mdv documentation because of<br> +licence (at least from 2005). I spoke with Camille (from Neodoc). He<br> +seems ok to give a hand and host Calenco platform for Mageia doc. It<br> +means we would have real tool that fits doc team needs: manage<br> +documentation project, translations, writters, readers...<br> +<br> +<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Could be good but if it will be used, please remember provide some documentation how exactly to translate, also. Being not able to understand how it works (besides short-lived experiment providing PO-files for translation) was and is IMHO main reason why Mandriva documentation is translated quite a few languages.</div> +<div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +><br> +> John NZ<br> +><br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +<br> +--<br> +Anne<br> +<a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br> +</font></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/52b83cc6/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/52b83cc6/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aec73290f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/52b83cc6/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Just to ensure we will not encompass the mandrake story again, check <a href="http://www.mageia.com">http://www.mageia.com</a> ...<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/52b83cc6/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/52b83cc6/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aec73290f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/52b83cc6/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Just to ensure we will not encompass the mandrake story again, check <a href="http://www.mageia.com">http://www.mageia.com</a> ...<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/97bfeefa/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/97bfeefa/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2125a444b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/97bfeefa/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/7 Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> + I am the one who volunteered of writing it </blockquote><div>2010/10/7 Maât <<a href="mailto:maat-ml@vilarem.net">maat-ml@vilarem.net</a>></div><div><div>News about forums progress :</div></div><div><div><br></div> +</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Is it possible to examine details about the forum together?</div><div><br></div><div>by experience of the forums, it does not seem to have a good rating users depending on the nomber posts. This leads readers to some confusion as to the quality of assistance sometimes. Is it possible to remove this function pbpbb?</div> +<div><br></div><div>second question: is it possible to record the messages for all the worst for a category (typically moderators) at best. This is to save time in the classification of questions and tips written by everyone?</div> +<div><br></div><div>what you thinks about this two littles points ? Possible ?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/97bfeefa/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/97bfeefa/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2125a444b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/97bfeefa/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/7 Michael Scherer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:misc@zarb.org">misc@zarb.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> + I am the one who volunteered of writing it </blockquote><div>2010/10/7 Maât <<a href="mailto:maat-ml@vilarem.net">maat-ml@vilarem.net</a>></div><div><div>News about forums progress :</div></div><div><div><br></div> +</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Is it possible to examine details about the forum together?</div><div><br></div><div>by experience of the forums, it does not seem to have a good rating users depending on the nomber posts. This leads readers to some confusion as to the quality of assistance sometimes. Is it possible to remove this function pbpbb?</div> +<div><br></div><div>second question: is it possible to record the messages for all the worst for a category (typically moderators) at best. This is to save time in the classification of questions and tips written by everyone?</div> +<div><br></div><div>what you thinks about this two littles points ? Possible ?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div> |