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You were so in hurry to give to mageia +</I>><i> > project that paypal asked us some informations. I phoned paypal, i sent paypal +</I>><i> > many documents, our vice-treasurer's phoned paypal and yesterday we were +</I>><i> > pleased to know that our paypal account was verified so no more limitation, we +</I>><i> > can overtake the limit of 2000€, and it is overtaken. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > While talking about paypal, you know that paypal take a commission on each +</I>><i> > donation. A the moment, donations arise at 2972.79€ but commission removed the +</I>><i> > donations are 2851.9€, a bit more than 4% of commission (well the real +</I>><i> > commission of a fixed amount plus a percentage of the amount). Donations using +</I>><i> > paypal are ranging from 3 to 500€ +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Bank transfert allows to get 1810€ and bank check 75€, to give 4736.9€ +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The announcement is translated into 10 languages, good job but i guess Maât, +</I>><i> > who's in charge of the page, is underemployed so let's get him some nice job +</I>><i> > by adding new languages! For example, what about greek , finnish, swedish (or +</I>><i> > norvegian?), russian, chinese, serbian announcements? Yes !! So translators, +</I>><i> > have a look at <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org/">http://donate.mageia.org/</A> translate it and send it and Maât +</I>><i> > will be very happy to add new languages. Oh by the way, if there is another +</I>><i> > language I did not talk about, feel free to translate too! To end with, Maât +</I>><i> > you are really a nice guy ;-), dear members of Mageia don't forget to +</I>><i> > congratulate him, he likes it :þ +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We are still waiting for the creation of Mageia association and the bank +</I>><i> > account to give the donations to Mageia. I guess it will take some days, but +</I>><i> > no problem for us, we will still be happy to help receiving donations. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I was about to forget, as Maât said in a previous mail, « Mageia IS definetely +</I>><i> > the answer to the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, +</I>><i> > The Universe, and Everything » +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe_and_Everything_.2842.29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe_and_Everything_.2842.29</A>> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <<A HREF="http://download.tuxfamily.org/cooker/mageia/stats/Capture-">http://download.tuxfamily.org/cooker/mageia/stats/Capture-</A> +</I>><i> > DonationMageia424242.png> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I stop here, next step 10,000€ ? Ok ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > -- +</I>><i> > Olivier Méjean +</I>><i> > Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +</I>><i> > twitter : obagoom +</I>><i> > identi.ca : goom +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> *cough* +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not that I'll expect anything but heavy flaming, lotsa hostility and +</I>><i> not really that much of a reward coming out of it, but I can't help +</I>><i> but raising a question.. +</I> +Well, I hope that you would not be too much flamed, because that's not +exactly what I would love to see here. So if people respond, please be +courteous :) + +><i> Isn't it rather kinda questionable and odd to expect of people, and +</I>><i> for people to donate to an organization that's not established yet, +</I>><i> nor any common goals, objectivies or any discussions concerning it or +</I>><i> even knowledge about who's involved in such discussions? +</I>><i> I personally would feel uncomfortable starting to raise funds and +</I>><i> accept donations from people who don't even really know whether what +</I>><i> they're actually supporting will become what they want it to or not.. +</I>><i> But maybe I'm just biased and not being objective expecting something +</I>><i> with at least not worse communication and without even the certain +</I>><i> degree of transparency and knowledge guaranteed by a public company +</I>><i> such as Mandriva..? +</I> +You are right, but I think that people who give have faith in the +project. And while I am biased, I think they are right. + +I also think people are able to decide by themselves who to trust, we +didn't do a big campaign "give us money or we will die" style, and we +were the first one to be astonished by the overwhelming reaction of the +community following us. In fact, and as I said in the past, this stress +me a little to see how much hope people put in us to organize +everything. I feel lot of pressure to do everything right from the start +on my part. + +I could perfectly understand that people would wait to give anything, +and in fact, I hope that I am not the only one to think like that ( but +thanks god, it seems that I am not ). + +But if anybody has any questions, the previous week have show that we +will answer to them. Maybe we could have done like the LibreOffice fork, +preparing everything and then announce, but we decided to be transparent +as soon as possible, even if this make us look like vaporware in the +first day. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001646.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001649.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |