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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jun 22 17:57:12 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 22 juni 2012 15:00:14 schreef Sander Lepik:
+&gt;<i> 22.06.2012 13:20, AL13N kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And about the conflicting part - well, at that point you are already on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; your own, at least
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; as i see it. Backports can break updating/upgrading, we can't avoid that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (and for the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; reason backports should be cherry-picked, so you get as little trouble as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; possible). The
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; best you can do at that point is to submit a bug about broken update and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; maybe (just maybe)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we can submit the updated package that needs those new deps into
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; backports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; too - so you can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; pull it from there and get over the update problem. But this should be a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; rare case anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Breaking updates because we try to support backports is not something that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i wish to have, no matter how rare the case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry to disappoint you, but this is something you can't avoid. And for that
+</I>&gt;<i> reason backports are not enabled by default ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And your solution wouldn't work, except for backporting the update and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having the user manually try to use the backported version for that too...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, you are finally starting to get my point. User has to manually fix
+</I>&gt;<i> those problems with backports and there is nothing we can do about it (at
+</I>&gt;<i> least it won't be easy).
+</I>
+considering both these points, we can't call backports supported IMHO.
+
+i'd rather have unsupported backports then, as we had before in mdv. calling
+it supported and not being able to fix these 2 points is just ridiculous.
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+I've tried to find a solution where backports are feasable, but it seems noone
+wishes to use it or consider it like that (where you're using all backports),
+so let's just cut the case and have unsupported backports. it's less work on
+QA.
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+but this is all regarding backports, and not for bug 2317.
+
+considering that backports is unsupported, my patch for 2317 is still valid,
+because you shouldn't have backports selected when updating, because it's not
+supported.
+
+I still think my patch is better, but if someone can make the patch using the
+corresponding release media, i'll not object anymore...
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