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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 29 14:17:42 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system to consider it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew how, but unfortunately I am not a
+</I>&gt;<i> packager nor am I a developer with intimate knowledge of Mageia - I am
+</I>&gt;<i> simply a power user who enjoys testing the latest (cauldron) and giving
+</I>&gt;<i> feedback.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ah... and there it is...
+
+This is how most threads like this ends up...
+
+Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
+so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
+about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
+it for you (unless you pay them)...
+
+
+So here is a few general points for all users to think about:
+
+* &quot;I am not a packager&quot;
+ - so what stops you from becoming one?
+ - everyone have had to start somewhere.
+ - we have packagers that takes on apprentices,
+ and you can always ask questions on mageia-dev@ ml
+ and #mageia-dev on irc if you get stuck.
+
+* &quot;I am not a developer&quot;
+ - for many packages you dont need to be a &quot;developer&quot; as
+ upstream is doing the development, so you only need to
+ be a packager and check if things are fixed upstream
+ and so on.
+
+* &quot;I dont have time...&quot;
+ - then how can you expect others to use their own time
+ to do it for you if they dont care about the thing you
+ want...
+
+
+Point is... our &quot;nobody&quot; maintainer is already overworked
+with over 2000 packages to take care of. So he/she does not
+want more work.
+
+
+And thinking about skype/teamviewer/...
+If we want to help...
+
+They dont need to be packaged. Just start a page on the
+wiki listing apps, where to get them, how to install them,
+and so on...
+Note! This page needs to be _maintained_ then too :)
+Otherwise people can just google it.
+
+--
+Thomas
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