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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 22 04:11:49 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 11/21/2011 09:41 PM, John Balcaen wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> I did not say anything else.
+</I>&gt;<i> I personally don't use the rhplugin or the mdv before but always
+</I>&gt;<i> switch to keyfile.
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+Please understand that I have *never* modified any Mageia-installed NM
+configuration file. I don't know what you mean by the mdv/rh/keyfile
+reference. I've been through enough of this to understand that there's
+an NM config file that specifies a shell script file that comes in an
+*rh* (RedHat) and an *mdv* versions. I have no idea what &quot;keyfile&quot;
+refers to.in this context.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> And all of this goes to Cauldron, not 1. I have never done an install of 1,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but always Cauldron with daily updates and periodic (~ every three weeks or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so ) fresh installs.
+</I>&gt;<i> On this initial bug report Mageia was providing the &#171; old &#187; 0.8.x
+</I>&gt;<i> version which in fact was only available in mageia 1 since dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> updated it to the 0.9 beta series once he started the migration to
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome3.
+</I>
+Fine. I'm just pointing out that I wasn't testing with backlevelled
+code, but with Cauldron as current at the time.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wrote too fast here.
+</I>&gt;<i> I meant that you never wrote somewhere that you choose to use nm
+</I>&gt;<i> (especially since i can notice that ifplugd was playing with nm in the
+</I>&gt;<i> logs).
+</I>
+Umm, no, I never had to write that anywhere for the simple reason that I
+*didn't* choose to use NM. Mageia chose to use it for me, because GNOME
+3 required it. I didn't do one blessed thing to encourage the use of
+NM in any way.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I agree but realize that if I have to use this to begin with, there's an NM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bug that is potentially severe enough to prevent distro deployment.
+</I>&gt;<i> I do understand&amp; that's why i suggested you to use the keyfile plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> in #865 instead of the &#171; ifcfg-mdv plugin not maintained anymore in
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.8.x &#187; or the rh plugin which also lacks some functionnality.
+</I>
+Which, referring to the same bug report, I did and reported the
+results. If there was a lesson to be learned there, it didn't get
+fixed in whatever version of the plugin Mageia uses by default.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Really, guys, I sympathize with the desire to move to something newer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supported by others. But you have to be ready to deal with the issue of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> back-breakage.
+</I>&gt;<i> I personally don't care if Mageia wants to switch to nm or stick to
+</I>&gt;<i> drakx-net, i was here to comment some bugs linked by you here.
+</I>&gt;<i> Nm is provided by mageia and it's far than enough for me because i'm
+</I>&gt;<i> able to use it without problem since Mageia 1. So as long as we have
+</I>&gt;<i> someone to deal/maintain with drakx-net we can still follow this road.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+I'm fine with that...
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+&gt;<i> Again here could you please test with the *keyfile* plugin&amp; if it's
+</I>&gt;<i> still broken with the native plugin report it upstream so we can get a
+</I>&gt;<i> bug fix for it ? (yes yet another fingers @ upstream :p )
+</I>
+I'll include that test in my next round.
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