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I see the benefits, but to me there is a major +</I>><i> > > drawback: they are not user-friendly : +</I>><i> > > - current names are readable, new ones aren't, they're just technical +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Adding capitals and replacing / with spaces does not make the name more +</I>><i> > user-friendly. If we want to be friendly with users, we should not +</I>><i> > confuse them by calling the same thing with different names all the time. +</I>><i> > The naming scheme for medias that is used almost everywhere including +</I>><i> > on mirrors is i586/core/release, not Core 32bit Release. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > - current naming scheme doesn't bother you with arch information, except +</I>><i> > > on 64 bits system and only for 32 bits media +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > That's the problem. Sometimes the arch is included, sometimes it is not. +</I>><i> > And sometimes two names can refer to different things (Core Release is +</I>><i> > not the same thing on x86_64 and i586 installs), or two different names +</I>><i> > can refer to the same thing (Core Release on i586 is the same as Core +</I>><i> > 32bit Release on x86_64 installs). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And 32bit is not more user-friendly than i586. Sources is not more +</I>><i> > user-friendly than SRPMS. We should call the same thing with the same +</I>><i> > name all the time. +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I disagree with you here, I'm all for consistent media names that are easy to +</I>><i> complete, but "Core Release Source" is more userfriendly than +</I>><i> "SRPMS/core/release" . i'm pretty sure my dad would get even more lost than he +</I>><i> is right now. +</I> +For someone who doesn't know anything about our media policy, both names +are equaly meaningless. If we want them to understand something, what is +needed is a description text of the medias. + +><i> +</I>><i> imho "Cauldron Core Release (source)" is more userfriendly than +</I>><i> "cauldron/SRPM/core/release". at least to people who don't even know what a +</I>><i> path is. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> it's acceptable for me to: +</I>><i> - no caps +</I>><i> - better ordering +</I>><i> - consistent arch adding +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but using pathnames, albeit the best consistency, is not good. +</I> +Why ? + +><i> +</I>><i> imho we should be able in cli to use a unique identifier, but it doesn't have +</I>><i> to be the name as seen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> if we can use urpm* commands with the path name as identifier, that's ok for me +</I>><i> too. +</I> +Having multiple unique identifiers for each media is not what I would +call user-friendly. We already have the name as unique identifier, there +is no need to add an other one. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009660.html">[Mageia-dev] Changing default media names +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009663.html">[Mageia-dev] Changing default media names +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9661">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9661">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9661">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9661">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |