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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] qemu new upstream release (1.0-rc1) and should we move from qemu-kvm to qemu?</H1>
+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] qemu new upstream release (1.0-rc1) and should we move from qemu-kvm to qemu?">n54 at gmx.com
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+ <I>Wed Nov 16 13:00:02 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 16.11.2011 12:53, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 16.11.2011 06:44, Buchan Milne wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday, 16 November 2011 05:30:05 Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 14.11.2011 14:53, Buchan Milne wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( and given the discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on ml, it should be soon )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When I ask the developers, they don't know if qemu will include the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> patch at all and when (now or after one year) and they suggested
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the openSUSE way (today the most recommended and full featured Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distro for GNS3).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK. So if gns3 can't be fixed for the stable - than should be removed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from the repos (for ISOs is to late).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If we don't provide qemu patch, then gns3 should be removed from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I believe removing GNS3 is better than keeping it broken and..
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> irritate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people (I don't count the opinion of our quality). Later some 3rd
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> party
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> repos can provide GNS3 and its dependencies.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You seem to imply that the only use of GNS3 is with this qemu patch.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's possible to simulate and play without qemu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should be &quot;Suggested&quot; by GNS3, but then what is the idea of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> suggesting qemu that isn't working at all? I simply don't know why to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distribute a program that provides support in GUI for something that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not working.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Uh, because you can use GNS3 for a lot of things without qemu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I used it for simulating a 4-router network with just dynamips.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, either I don't understand what you are trying to achieve, or why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you want
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to *prevent* people from emulating routers with GNS3.
+</I>&gt;<i> If I do *import* dynamips into Mageia then I want to *prevent* people
+</I>&gt;<i> from emulating? No, I want to distribute fullfeatured software, where
+</I>&gt;<i> everything is *well-rounded* - and not *missing*/*broken*.
+</I>And providing it via 3rd party repo as fullfeatured is much better than
+via official resources but limited. Is this also preventing? If someone
+will need it, then will find information how to use GNS3 with Mageia.
+&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i>
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