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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ <I>Fri Oct 1 12:18:53 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-01 05:56, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/10/1 Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such applications don't have to be installed by default. They just have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to be available on the installation DVD, with a selectable Educational
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group of applications, much like the Internet and Server groups
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available on existing Mandriva DVD's. It could even be called &quot;Young
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Family&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Note that in the past (at least about 10 years ago), RedHat CD's had
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> many selectable installation groups, many of which overlapped. So using
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this approach, there could be groups called &quot;Educational&quot;, &quot;Young
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Family&quot;, and &quot;Home Office&quot;, for example, all containing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> go-openoffice office suite, among other applications.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I believe that the current Mandriva DVD doesn't have any overlap between
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installation groups.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Andr&#233; (andre999)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I like this approach.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same here. When I used SuSE Linux 4.4.1 they had the same approach. I
+</I>&gt;<i> even did several installations, each with a different set of
+</I>&gt;<i> applications, using the same /home. A good way to find out what you
+</I>&gt;<i> really want/need.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc, what you wrote about kids being the future is common knowledge,
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder that so many companies do not recognize that. Microsoft does,
+</I>&gt;<i> they are sponsoring school computer networks and internet access, thus
+</I>&gt;<i> creating their future client base.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Suse Linux really lost momentum when Novell didn't/has not recognized
+that its netware application days are at an end. If they pushed for a
+Suse educational netware application/distro, most school boards using
+the Novel netware apps would migrate this way. Fewer disruptions to
+their systems. School boards plan 5-10 years in advance for changes and
+it is extremely difficult for them to change in the middle of planned
+migration. There is a lot of money involved in this. Most board will pay
+Microsoft approx. $30-50/seat for use of MSWord -- so for example our
+board has over 10,000 computers. That is a huge cost just for the use of
+a Wordprocessor. I don't know the cost of the Novell install/contract
+but it would most likely approach this amount.
+
+If Mageia had educational partners on-board it would be a huge initial
+plus to the distro. School boards are, in a traditional sense, expected
+to spend money and not save/make money. We could, for example, offer to
+tailor certain aspects of the distro for our education partners. Note
+that the focus on educational institutions is for foster use of
+knowledge, so they would most likely be interested in areas of a distro
+that focussed on kids/adult learning needs. If Mageia did this well,
+then this could then lead to more educational partners coming on board.
+We would only need 2-5 educational partners to kick-start this approach.
+I would suggest to try for 1 educational partner per continent. It would
+then mushroom from there.
+
+Unfortunately, not having a Mageia server service may hurt us. But there
+is nothing to stop us from partnering or tooling up our community distro
+to work well with a server (in this case I would go for RedHat servers).
+
+There is no doubt that the next major expenses in the very near future
+for school boards is the change in netware applications. And they are
+still very confused. What they do know is that it will most likely be a
+linux solution. That is pretty well accepted.
+
+Marc
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