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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 28 janvier 2011 &#224; 13:31 +0100, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> planet.mageia.org is an old discussion (started in September (mostly
+</I>&gt;<i> IRL) when we installed blogs).
+</I>&gt;<i> It's an important website to spread Mageia and an aggregator about the
+</I>&gt;<i> project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As previously discussed on IRC or IRL, we have analyzed the different
+</I>&gt;<i> web based aggregator platforms we known:
+</I>&gt;<i> - planetplanet (<A HREF="http://www.planetplanet.org/">http://www.planetplanet.org/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> - planet venus (<A HREF="http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/">http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, we met Pascal Chevrel, from Mozilla Europe, in November, and
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed on a lot of things.
+</I>&gt;<i> He explained us how they were managing the Mozilla Europe Planet and
+</I>&gt;<i> made us discovered moonmoon (<A HREF="http://moonmoon.org">http://moonmoon.org</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> This platform fits all our requirements: &quot;Moonmoon is stupidly simple&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (no DB, no comments, no votes, flat files, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We expect to install this web based agregator on &quot;champagne&quot; to start
+</I>&gt;<i> ASAP the Mageia Planet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For know, we thought, for agregatted blogs on it, of the following
+</I>&gt;<i> rules:
+</I>&gt;<i> - anyone who asks for it
+</I>&gt;<i> - who is peer in a team
+</I>&gt;<i> - only post with a Mageia tag will appear on the planet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for the feedback.
+</I>
+That's quite short on lots of areas.
+
+I will let the future technical hurdles aside and keep the real fun for
+later, and just goes on the obvious ones :
+
+&quot;post with a mageia tag&quot; just mean nothing, that doesn't give any
+indication. If I use a blog system that do not support tag, I cannot be
+syndicated ? If I post commercial stuff ( already happened ) or insult
+people ( also already happened ), that's ok since there is a tag ?
+If this is not ok, what does happen ?
+
+Another usual area of contention is &quot;Can someone post in a foreign
+language&quot; ?
+
+What happen if someone is no longer a peer, does it get un-syndicated ?
+
+What if someone or someone's post are a cause of controversy without
+being clearly immoral/illegal/etc, and people complains ?
+Non exhaustive list of people complains :
+- Planet gnome :
+ - Mark Shuttleworth ( controversy before he got syndicated ),
+ - Phillipe Van Hoof ( belgian policy and pro flamand topics, and
+ quite extreme opinions ),
+ - David Schlesinger ( basically dissing gnu zealots, and doing Apple
+ promotion ),
+ - Miguel Da Icaza ( mono promotion )
+Planet Fedora :
+ - Mar&#237;a Gracia Leandro ( posted daily photos on her blog ),
+ - Nicu Buculei ( posted a photo seen as sexist ( removed now ) )
+Planet Debian :
+ - Raphael Herzog ( used some tools seen as too intrusive on a
+ privacy level for the debian server, was seen as being asked
+ to be &quot;flattred&quot; )
+
+and that's all the recent examples I have got on my head. Not that I
+cannot find more if I seek, but I guess that's sufficient to explain
+that there is quite interesting challenge preparing.
+
+Not to mention there is also small potential legal issues :
+Should we ask the content be under a free license ( or the website would
+not mix ) ?
+Are we ( we == association ) responsible for this ?
+( IMHO, it would not matter much under DADVSI provisions, and I do not
+expect much trouble at all, but the question have to be asked none the
+less, at least to be consistent with ourself )
+
+ While being co editor at Planet Mandriva, I just didn't care about that
+( PLF style ), and we were also quite 'liberal' in term of choosing who
+could enter and who would get out, but that didn't cause trouble. People
+could post what they wanted about what they wanted, in the language they
+wanted.
+
+But given the numerous issues that I have seen while discussing with
+people in charge of others planets, more precise guidelines should be
+described.
+
+Or if you do not want guideline ( which I can also understand, because
+that's usually a point of friction and so a time lose ), this should be
+made clearer.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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