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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004491.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004491.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8b763d898 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004491.html @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Torrent + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE96A2B.8050808%40sebastienchopin.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004492.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Torrent</H1> + <B>Chopin Sébastien</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE96A2B.8050808%40sebastienchopin.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Torrent">contact at sebastienchopin.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 01:11:39 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4491">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4491">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4491">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4491">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello! + +Yes! i've reach the ration 1.0 into Gnome-Europe1 torrent with Deluge! +Please, meet with another Mageia ! + +Sébastien +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4491">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4491">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4491">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4491">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004492.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004492.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8a0dd5ca0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004492.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Torrent + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimT-n8D%2BagXJqxsJR_a27akQmahEQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004491.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004501.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Torrent</H1> + <B>Steven Hess</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimT-n8D%2BagXJqxsJR_a27akQmahEQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Torrent">flamebait at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 02:04:06 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004501.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4492">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4492">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4492">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4492">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>My ISP gets hinky about torrents now so I hit and ran. My ratio was .005 + +On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Chopin Sébastien <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">contact at sebastienchopin.fr</A> +><i> wrote: +</I> +><i> Hello! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes! i've reach the ration 1.0 into Gnome-Europe1 torrent with Deluge! +</I>><i> Please, meet with another Mageia ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sébastien +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +____________ +ARS KC6KGE 3.975 146.550 +Steven L Hess +661 765 6456 +Skype user name flamebait +Google Voice works well. 100% Linux. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110603/e911b3e8/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004501.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4492">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4492">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4492">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4492">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004493.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004493.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e1c6a3004 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004493.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE97734.9080401%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004511.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004494.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE97734.9080401%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 02:07:16 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004494.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4493">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4493">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4493">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4493">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Remco Rijnders a écrit : +><i> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:32:10PM +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>>><i> On 3 June 2011 17:30, Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> Dear all, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> In the past few days since the release (and also before, but less +</I>>>><i> frequently) I notice a number of requests for help and assistance for a +</I>>>><i> variety of issues being posted on this list. To me this seems to be not +</I>>>><i> really on topic for this list which, to my understanding, is more +</I>>>><i> aimed at +</I>>>><i> discussing the direction of Mageia for future releases and the role +</I>>>><i> Mageia +</I>>>><i> should play in the larger free software community. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> "Mageia-discuss is about Mageia general discussions: future plans, +</I>>><i> community, association, ... Feel free to ask any questions here." +</I>>><i> c.f. <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I am not sure, if the "any questions" part includes support, but I +</I>>><i> think so. History tells us that the higher the number of mailing lists +</I>>><i> the higher the number of unused-and-left-to-cobwebs mailing lists +</I>>><i> become... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would that not obsolete half our mailing lists though if "any questions" +</I>><i> are on topic on this list? I interpretate it as "any questions on the +</I>><i> aforementioned topics", though I agree that "..." leaves a lot of room +</I>><i> open to interpretation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I find it hard to believe though that a mageia-users@ list would end up +</I>><i> being a cobweb-list, though I could be wrong. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To me, "discuss" is related to topics that warrant discussion. It's +</I>><i> about things where different and even opposing points of view may exist +</I>><i> and can be worked out through a series of communications back and forth. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Support questions are not a discussion, they are simple matters of "I +</I>><i> have a problem, how do I get it it fixed for me?". There are no opposing +</I>><i> points of view, only different suggestions based on the interpretation +</I>><i> of what the poster's problem is and the understanding of it by the +</I>><i> helpful reader willing to assist. I can well understand that a person +</I>><i> subscribed to this list might not be interested in end-user questions, +</I>><i> just as much as a person needing or providing help might be interested +</I>><i> in "political bickering" on the mageia-discuss list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks Ahmad for your feedback :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I> +I agree with Ahmad's interpretation. +As well, I think you will get a better response on this discuss list than with a dedicated +user-help list. + +My reasoning : +Many of those who would help you are interested in following the discussions. If they see someone +needing assistance, and they can help, they will. But they are not necessarily interested in +spending much time helping others. As well, likely they would not be able to help with most +problems. Those more strongly interested in helping others are probably already helping on the +forums, where it is easier to focus on particular problems needing solution. + +My 2 cents. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004494.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4493">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4493">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4493">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4493">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004494.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004494.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2f42f950f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004494.html @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C9V.%26X4%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004493.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004497.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C9V.%26X4%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 03:35:42 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004493.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004497.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4494">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4494">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4494">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4494">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:07:16PM -0400, andre999 wrote: +><i>Remco Rijnders a écrit : +</I>>><i>On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:32:10PM +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>>>><i>On 3 June 2011 17:30, Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>>><i>Dear all, +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i>In the past few days since the release (and also before, but less +</I>>>>><i>frequently) I notice a number of requests for help and assistance for a +</I>>>>><i>variety of issues being posted on this list. To me this seems to be not +</I>>>>><i>really on topic for this list which, to my understanding, is more +</I>>>>><i>aimed at +</I>>>>><i>discussing the direction of Mageia for future releases and the role +</I>>>>><i>Mageia +</I>>>>><i>should play in the larger free software community. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i>"Mageia-discuss is about Mageia general discussions: future plans, +</I>>>><i>community, association, ... Feel free to ask any questions here." +</I>>>><i>c.f. <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i>I am not sure, if the "any questions" part includes support, but I +</I>>>><i>think so. History tells us that the higher the number of mailing lists +</I>>>><i>the higher the number of unused-and-left-to-cobwebs mailing lists +</I>>>><i>become... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i>Would that not obsolete half our mailing lists though if "any questions" +</I>>><i>are on topic on this list? I interpretate it as "any questions on the +</I>>><i>aforementioned topics", though I agree that "..." leaves a lot of room +</I>>><i>open to interpretation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>I agree with Ahmad's interpretation. +</I>><i>As well, I think you will get a better response on this discuss list +</I>><i>than with a dedicated user-help list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>My reasoning : +</I>><i>Many of those who would help you are interested in following the +</I>><i>discussions. If they see someone needing assistance, and they can +</I>><i>help, they will. But they are not necessarily interested in spending +</I>><i>much time helping others. As well, likely they would not be able to +</I>><i>help with most problems. Those more strongly interested in helping +</I>><i>others are probably already helping on the forums, where it is easier +</I>><i>to focus on particular problems needing solution. +</I> +I don't understand it (call me thick), but now people are saying that the +reason why a user gets an answer faster on the mailing list than on the +forum is because a question asked where it is possibly off-topic has a +better chance of being answered than in a place where it is on-topic? + +Also, while I understand there is a big difference of scale, I'd like to +invite you to look at the debian-users mailing list for a while or have a +look at its archives and see which posts go unanswered there as compared +to the calls for help on our forum. If you feel this is not a fair +comparison, compare it to debian or ubuntu user forums. + +Personal preferences aside, I do not see why the opposition to my +proposal. Is it really such an outrageous request? I'm honestly surprised +by some of the reactions I got on here and on IRC yesterday too, what to +me, seems like a no brainer. + +Thanks and regards, + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110604/af50cced/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004493.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004497.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4494">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4494">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4494">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4494">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004495.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004495.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8d17c2018 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004495.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201106041225.03336.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004498.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004499.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201106041225.03336.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 04:25:03 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004498.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004499.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4495">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4495">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4495">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4495">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:04:10 AM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> Yes, posting here achieved a faster result. But this is not because ml +</I>><i> of users would be better. It is because you posted where there was more +</I>><i> people available and less questions. +</I> +What I like about mailing lists/Usenet is: + +(a) I see everrything that comes up. Good for general education, when I am +not an IT person. I can't broswe a forum the same way; perhaps that is just +me. + +(b) the occasional humorous exchanges. Yes, they can get out of hand, but not +too often. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004498.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004499.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4495">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4495">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4495">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4495">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004496.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004496.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e56130da7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004496.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20error%20with%20Release%201%20installer&In-Reply-To=%3C201106041232.44061.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004529.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004500.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20error%20with%20Release%201%20installer&In-Reply-To=%3C201106041232.44061.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 04:32:43 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004500.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4496">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4496">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4496">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4496">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Trying to upgrade my current Mageia installation from the DVD, I get an +endless loop in the kernel messages, to the effect that USB 1-4 is tried on +various ports in the 43 range and always gives error -71. I couldn't find a +way to save the log. Meanwhile the GUI is showing "proceeding, please +wait..." + +I have no idea which USB device is involved. lsusb from the working system +doesn't correspond. If a bug report is needed, I will unplug every USB device +to identify it. + +Why upgrade? Only so that the DVD is the basis of the system. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004500.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4496">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4496">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4496">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4496">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004497.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004497.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25eb2b0f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004497.html @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE99B94.10603%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004494.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004498.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE99B94.10603%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 04:42:28 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004494.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004498.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4497">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4497">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4497">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4497">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Remco Rijnders a écrit : +><i> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:07:16PM -0400, andre999 wrote: +</I>>><i> Remco Rijnders a écrit : +</I>>>><i> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:32:10PM +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>>>>><i> On 3 June 2011 17:30, Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>>>><i> Dear all, +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> In the past few days since the release (and also before, but less +</I>>>>>><i> frequently) I notice a number of requests for help and assistance +</I>>>>>><i> for a +</I>>>>>><i> variety of issues being posted on this list. To me this seems to be +</I>>>>>><i> not +</I>>>>>><i> really on topic for this list which, to my understanding, is more +</I>>>>>><i> aimed at +</I>>>>>><i> discussing the direction of Mageia for future releases and the role +</I>>>>>><i> Mageia +</I>>>>>><i> should play in the larger free software community. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> "Mageia-discuss is about Mageia general discussions: future plans, +</I>>>>><i> community, association, ... Feel free to ask any questions here." +</I>>>>><i> c.f. <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I am not sure, if the "any questions" part includes support, but I +</I>>>>><i> think so. History tells us that the higher the number of mailing lists +</I>>>>><i> the higher the number of unused-and-left-to-cobwebs mailing lists +</I>>>>><i> become... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Would that not obsolete half our mailing lists though if "any questions" +</I>>>><i> are on topic on this list? I interpretate it as "any questions on the +</I>>>><i> aforementioned topics", though I agree that "..." leaves a lot of room +</I>>>><i> open to interpretation. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I agree with Ahmad's interpretation. +</I>>><i> As well, I think you will get a better response on this discuss list +</I>>><i> than with a dedicated user-help list. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> My reasoning : +</I>>><i> Many of those who would help you are interested in following the +</I>>><i> discussions. If they see someone needing assistance, and they can +</I>>><i> help, they will. But they are not necessarily interested in spending +</I>>><i> much time helping others. As well, likely they would not be able to +</I>>><i> help with most problems. Those more strongly interested in helping +</I>>><i> others are probably already helping on the forums, where it is easier +</I>>><i> to focus on particular problems needing solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't understand it (call me thick), but now people are saying that +</I>><i> the reason why a user gets an answer faster on the mailing list than on +</I>><i> the forum is because a question asked where it is possibly off-topic has +</I>><i> a better chance of being answered than in a place where it is on-topic? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also, while I understand there is a big difference of scale, I'd like to +</I>><i> invite you to look at the debian-users mailing list for a while or have +</I>><i> a look at its archives and see which posts go unanswered there as +</I>><i> compared to the calls for help on our forum. If you feel this is not a +</I>><i> fair comparison, compare it to debian or ubuntu user forums. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personal preferences aside, I do not see why the opposition to my +</I>><i> proposal. Is it really such an outrageous request? I'm honestly +</I>><i> surprised by some of the reactions I got on here and on IRC yesterday +</I>><i> too, what to me, seems like a no brainer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks and regards, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I> +It is not an outrageous request. +I (and many others) just think that with the current state of Mageia development, that you would be +better served on the current Mageia discuss list than on a separate user-help list. +Asking for help on this list is not off-topic, in the opinion of most (if not almost all). It is +done all the time, and people willingly help. +If Mageia had the thousands of contributors of Debian, the situation could well be different. +As misc pointed out, a large part of the reason there is a better response on this list than on the +forum, is that more people frequent this list. I would add, more knowledgable people than would +likely frequent a user-help list. But that is just my take on the situation. I just wouldn't like +to see such a list being added, and it becoming more difficult to get help. + +Another point. Often a problem brought up on this list makes others aware of potential +improvements, which can lead to a better Mageia. But a developer who might provide the improvement +is less likely to monitor a user-help list, as well the the developer and discuss lists. +So we're actually trying to give you and other users a better experience :) + +another 2 cents :) +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004494.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004498.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4497">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4497">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4497">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4497">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004498.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004498.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4a70d80d2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004498.html @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE99C68.5090706%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004497.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004495.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DE99C68.5090706%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 04:46:00 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004497.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004495.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4498">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4498">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4498">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4498">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Remco Rijnders a écrit : +><i> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:07:16PM -0400, andre999 wrote: +</I>>><i> Remco Rijnders a écrit : +</I>>>><i> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:32:10PM +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>>>>><i> On 3 June 2011 17:30, Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>>>><i> Dear all, +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> In the past few days since the release (and also before, but less +</I>>>>>><i> frequently) I notice a number of requests for help and assistance +</I>>>>>><i> for a +</I>>>>>><i> variety of issues being posted on this list. To me this seems to be +</I>>>>>><i> not +</I>>>>>><i> really on topic for this list which, to my understanding, is more +</I>>>>>><i> aimed at +</I>>>>>><i> discussing the direction of Mageia for future releases and the role +</I>>>>>><i> Mageia +</I>>>>>><i> should play in the larger free software community. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> "Mageia-discuss is about Mageia general discussions: future plans, +</I>>>>><i> community, association, ... Feel free to ask any questions here." +</I>>>>><i> c.f. <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I am not sure, if the "any questions" part includes support, but I +</I>>>>><i> think so. History tells us that the higher the number of mailing lists +</I>>>>><i> the higher the number of unused-and-left-to-cobwebs mailing lists +</I>>>>><i> become... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Would that not obsolete half our mailing lists though if "any questions" +</I>>>><i> are on topic on this list? I interpretate it as "any questions on the +</I>>>><i> aforementioned topics", though I agree that "..." leaves a lot of room +</I>>>><i> open to interpretation. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I agree with Ahmad's interpretation. +</I>>><i> As well, I think you will get a better response on this discuss list +</I>>><i> than with a dedicated user-help list. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> My reasoning : +</I>>><i> Many of those who would help you are interested in following the +</I>>><i> discussions. If they see someone needing assistance, and they can +</I>>><i> help, they will. But they are not necessarily interested in spending +</I>>><i> much time helping others. As well, likely they would not be able to +</I>>><i> help with most problems. Those more strongly interested in helping +</I>>><i> others are probably already helping on the forums, where it is easier +</I>>><i> to focus on particular problems needing solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't understand it (call me thick), but now people are saying that +</I>><i> the reason why a user gets an answer faster on the mailing list than on +</I>><i> the forum is because a question asked where it is possibly off-topic has +</I>><i> a better chance of being answered than in a place where it is on-topic? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also, while I understand there is a big difference of scale, I'd like to +</I>><i> invite you to look at the debian-users mailing list for a while or have +</I>><i> a look at its archives and see which posts go unanswered there as +</I>><i> compared to the calls for help on our forum. If you feel this is not a +</I>><i> fair comparison, compare it to debian or ubuntu user forums. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personal preferences aside, I do not see why the opposition to my +</I>><i> proposal. Is it really such an outrageous request? I'm honestly +</I>><i> surprised by some of the reactions I got on here and on IRC yesterday +</I>><i> too, what to me, seems like a no brainer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks and regards, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I> +It is not an outrageous request. +I (and many others) just think that with the current state of Mageia development, that you would be +better served on the current Mageia discuss list than on a separate user-help list. +Asking for help on this list is not off-topic, in the opinion of most (if not almost all). It is +done all the time, and people willingly help. +If Mageia had the thousands of contributors of Debian, the situation could well be different. +As misc pointed out, a large part of the reason there is a better response on this list than on the +forum, is that more people frequent this list. I would add, more knowledgable people than would +likely frequent a user-help list. But that is just my take on the situation. I just wouldn't like +to see such a list being added, and it becoming more difficult to get help. + +Another point. Often a problem brought up on this list makes developers aware of potential +improvements, which can lead to a better Mageia. But a developer who might provide the improvement +is less likely to monitor a user-help list, as well the the developer and discuss lists. +So we're actually trying to give you and other users a better experience :) + +another 2 cents :) +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004497.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004495.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4498">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4498">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4498">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4498">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004499.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004499.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e66acf332 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004499.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C9W.ut3%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004495.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004507.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C9W.ut3%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 06:12:19 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004495.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004507.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4499">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4499">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4499">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4499">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:25:03PM +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +><i>On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:04:10 AM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +</I>>><i> Yes, posting here achieved a faster result. But this is not because ml +</I>>><i> of users would be better. It is because you posted where there was more +</I>>><i> people available and less questions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>What I like about mailing lists/Usenet is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i>(a) I see everrything that comes up. Good for general education, when I am +</I>><i>not an IT person. I can't broswe a forum the same way; perhaps that is just +</I>><i>me. +</I> +I'm much the same way. Posts to a mailing list I will read, most things on +a forum I just miss as it goes on. Only exception to that mailing list +rule is the Mageia bugs list, there I do need to cherry pick what I read +due to the massive amounts of mail it gets. + +Another thing I like is that I can sort, mark, filter and read mails on a +list in any way I like be it from home or at work in a client of my own +choice. + +><i>(b) the occasional humorous exchanges. Yes, they can get out of hand, but not +</I>><i>too often. +</I> +Ditto. I think a mailing list is more likely to have humour on it. 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Only so that the DVD is the basis of the system. +</I>I don't understand what you are doing... 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My ratio was .005 +</I>><i> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Chopin Sébastien +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">contact at sebastienchopin.fr</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hello! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes! i've reach the ration 1.0 into Gnome-Europe1 torrent with Deluge! +</I>>><i> Please, meet with another Mageia ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Sébastien +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> ____________ +</I>><i> ARS KC6KGE 3.975 146.550 +</I>><i> Steven L Hess +</I>><i> 661 765 6456 +</I>><i> Skype user name flamebait +</I>><i> Google Voice works well. 100% Linux. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +A. 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People are still downloading but max connections ain't used +anymore. So there are probably enough seeders at the moment. + +-- +Sander + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004501.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4502">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4502">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4502">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4502">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004503.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004503.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e64a9e8d8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004503.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Torrent + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3C9Y.peO%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004502.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004511.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Torrent</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3C9Y.peO%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Torrent">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 12:08:20 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004502.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4503">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4503">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4503">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4503">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:56:32PM +0300, Sander Lepik wrote: +><i>04.06.2011 12:41, Andres Kaaber kirjutas: +</I>>><i>I'v reached with both x86_64 and i586 dvd iso ratio 0.4 but it seems +</I>>><i>that for last 6 hours there is no demand for them. +</I>><i>Maybe your speed is too low. People are still downloading but max +</I>><i>connections ain't used anymore. So there are probably enough seeders +</I>><i>at the moment. +</I> +For what it's worth, I am at a ratio of 22+ for both the DVD's now, but +speeds (demand) have indeed slowed down some. I'm doing about 200KB/sec +now which is about 20% of what it was at a few days ago. + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110604/4a69ccfa/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004502.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4503">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4503">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4503">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4503">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004504.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004504.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8f33564a8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004504.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20error%20with%20Release%201%20installer&In-Reply-To=%3C201106042017.30980.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004516.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004505.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20error%20with%20Release%201%20installer&In-Reply-To=%3C201106042017.30980.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 12:17:30 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004516.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004505.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4504">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4504">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4504">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4504">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:00:03 PM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> > Why upgrade? Only so that the DVD is the basis of the system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't understand what you are doing... What do you mean by the DVD +</I>><i> being the absis of the system? +</I> +I wanted the box to be as if it had been installed from the 1 release, not +from the alpha or beta. I have the DVD copied to local files. To get around +this problem, I copied the i586/media directory in place of the previous one +then updated my media. In practical terms, the system is no different. If I +had been using the DVD, I would have kept inserting the original one (alpha 2, +I think) if required. + +The device causing the trouble turned out to be an external hard drive +enclosure I keep for backups. It has never been a problem before, including +for Mageia installation media. I watched it try every port number from 1 to +120 3 times without success, but once, when I left it for a while, the +installation GUI had come up. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004516.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004505.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4504">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4504">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4504">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4504">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004505.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004505.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c2258fba1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004505.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA0DE3.6030200%40o2.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004504.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004509.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>doug</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA0DE3.6030200%40o2.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">dougrb at o2.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 12:50:11 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004504.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004509.html">[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4505">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4505">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4505">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4505">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 03/06/11 18:51, Remco Rijnders wrote: +><i> On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:52:16PM -0400, Gary Montalbine +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I support a mailing list for users. I had a problem that +</I>>><i> would not let me use my security camera. Yesterday I +</I>>><i> posted the request for assistance in the forum. No answer. +</I>>><i> Today I asked for help on the mailing list and within 30 +</I>>><i> minutes I had the answer and now have a working camera. I +</I>>><i> am strictly a user and find mailing lists very informative. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi Gary, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for your feedback :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think (for me personally) one of the main differences +</I>><i> between the forum and a mailing list is the way messages are +</I>><i> delivered. On the mailinglist, even when I don't have the +</I>><i> time for a couple of days to read the list, the mails will +</I>><i> stay there waiting for me to read them. On a forum the posts +</I>><i> will also be there, but any problem which I might know the +</I>><i> answer to but which received no posts in a couple of days +</I>><i> would disappear from my view. Yes, the post itself would +</I>><i> still be there, but how many forum readers click through +</I>><i> after page 3 or 4 of posts? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sincerely, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I> +Heartily agree, especially as a user posting a problem to a +forum. + +Doug + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004504.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004509.html">[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4505">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4505">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4505">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4505">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004506.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004506.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..564c8bd4a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004506.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DYTi%3DsDgdUm94mZhTPjWDjNt2v3A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004508.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004510.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DYTi%3DsDgdUm94mZhTPjWDjNt2v3A%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 13:11:28 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004508.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004510.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4506">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4506">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4506">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4506">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>1. First I want to get rid of these all-time arguments against forums: +"A posting in the forum gets off my radar screen when I am not +constantly monitoring the forum, while a mail in the mailing list +stays there." and "I will see all mail topics in the list but I do not +have the time to search all sections of the forum for unanswered/new +posts." + +Both are caused by wrong handling of a forum. In the forum you can +always view "Active topics" - you don't have to go through the whole +forum to search for new posts, they are marked as new. You do not lose +sight of such posts because they will only vanish to the 2nd page of +the list of "Active topics". So where is the difference to a mailing +list in this context? + +2. Michael showed some figures. These are normal. You will get much +less user support questions in this list than in the forum. This list +here lives not from user support requests but from discussions about +Mageia in general. It also lives from all the experienced people here, +including the packagers, developpers, founders, etc. Now what would a +nes support mailing list have except the user support requests and a +handful of people who care about giving support? All the other people +who are here now, will not automatically be available in a new support +list. +And those who are inot user communication and support mostly are +already in the forum. + +3. History: What happened to teh MandrakeLinux mailing lists after the +international forum was opened to everybody? The lists died away. + +So, in the end I am not against such a support list but I do not see +the necessity. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004508.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004510.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4506">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4506">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4506">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4506">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004507.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004507.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cbb2d76cc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004507.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA129C.9070704%40o2.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004499.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004508.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>doug</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA129C.9070704%40o2.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">dougrb at o2.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 13:10:20 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004499.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004508.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4507">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4507">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4507">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4507">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/06/11 05:12, Remco Rijnders wrote: +><i> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:25:03PM +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +</I>>><i> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 10:04:10 AM +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +</I>>>><i> Yes, posting here achieved a faster result. But this is +</I>>>><i> not because ml +</I>>>><i> of users would be better. It is because you posted where +</I>>>><i> there was more +</I>>>><i> people available and less questions. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What I like about mailing lists/Usenet is: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> (a) I see everrything that comes up. Good for general +</I>>><i> education, when I am +</I>>><i> not an IT person. I can't broswe a forum the same way; +</I>>><i> perhaps that is just +</I>>><i> me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm much the same way. Posts to a mailing list I will read, +</I>><i> most things on a forum I just miss as it goes on. Only +</I>><i> exception to that mailing list rule is the Mageia bugs list, +</I>><i> there I do need to cherry pick what I read due to the +</I>><i> massive amounts of mail it gets. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another thing I like is that I can sort, mark, filter and +</I>><i> read mails on a list in any way I like be it from home or at +</I>><i> work in a client of my own choice. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> (b) the occasional humorous exchanges. Yes, they can get +</I>>><i> out of hand, but not +</I>>><i> too often. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ditto. I think a mailing list is more likely to have humour +</I>><i> on it. Perhaps it is more likely to have flamewars on it +</I>><i> too, but I find that when I find that I'm losing my cool it +</I>><i> is best to take a few steps back from it, no matter what the +</I>><i> format is. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I> +There's another point - as a lurker, being able to see in +the same mailing list both +(1) how things are developing +(2) how the problems are resolved +is a great reassurance to finally dipping my toes into +Mageia. Presumably this is what Mageia wants to encourage. +I imagine others might be in a similar situation, where they +would be put off trying to follow two lists, one full of +woes and the other mainly incomprehensible. +As an example of a very successful project, the mailing list +for Hugin has resisted splitting for much this sort of +reasoning. + +Doug + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004499.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004508.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4507">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4507">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4507">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4507">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004508.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004508.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4c53977a9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004508.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTintt5eOO3F%2B9fX8ao6ZkkLS%2BNF3YA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004507.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004506.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTintt5eOO3F%2B9fX8ao6ZkkLS%2BNF3YA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 13:23:51 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004507.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004506.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4508">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4508">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4508">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4508">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/4 doug <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dougrb at o2.co.uk</A>>: +><i> On 04/06/11 05:12, Remco Rijnders wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> (b) the occasional humorous exchanges. Yes, they can get +</I>>>><i> out of hand, but not +</I>>>><i> too often. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ditto. I think a mailing list is more likely to have humour +</I>>><i> on it. +</I> +You haveN#t read many forums, have you? I have never read any +technical mailing list (and I have read some in my time) with such a +wide area of humour, witty remarks, and (of course) also serious +discussions as most of the forums I read. + +><i> There's another point - as a lurker, being able to see in the same mailing +</I>><i> list both +</I>><i> (1) how things are developing +</I> +You will not see that in a support mailing list. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004507.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004506.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4508">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4508">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4508">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4508">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004509.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004509.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..144933e65 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004509.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Asking%20for%20openmotif%20packages.&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA190A.1050706%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004505.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004512.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages.</H1> + <B>Xuo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Asking%20for%20openmotif%20packages.&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA190A.1050706%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages.">xuoy at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 13:37:46 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004505.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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First I want to get rid of these all-time arguments against forums: +</I>><i> "A posting in the forum gets off my radar screen when I am not +</I>><i> constantly monitoring the forum, while a mail in the mailing list +</I>><i> stays there." and "I will see all mail topics in the list but I do not +</I>><i> have the time to search all sections of the forum for unanswered/new +</I>><i> posts." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Both are caused by wrong handling of a forum. In the forum you can +</I>><i> always view "Active topics" - you don't have to go through the whole +</I>><i> forum to search for new posts, they are marked as new. You do not lose +</I>><i> sight of such posts because they will only vanish to the 2nd page of +</I>><i> the list of "Active topics". So where is the difference to a mailing +</I>><i> list in this context? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2. Michael showed some figures. These are normal. You will get much +</I>><i> less user support questions in this list than in the forum. This list +</I>><i> here lives not from user support requests but from discussions about +</I>><i> Mageia in general. It also lives from all the experienced people here, +</I>><i> including the packagers, developpers, founders, etc. Now what would a +</I>><i> nes support mailing list have except the user support requests and a +</I>><i> handful of people who care about giving support? All the other people +</I>><i> who are here now, will not automatically be available in a new support +</I>><i> list. +</I>><i> And those who are inot user communication and support mostly are +</I>><i> already in the forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3. History: What happened to teh MandrakeLinux mailing lists after the +</I>><i> international forum was opened to everybody? The lists died away. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, in the end I am not against such a support list but I do not see +</I>><i> the necessity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +Also there is the solution to follow all or part of a forum with rss. + +I prefers rss as: +it does nt stress as the email, +i can follow everything, +i can click on the title to see the text if the title interesting me. In forum i have to click on a subject but it takes a lot of time to see the topic in a new page + + + +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004506.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004515.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4510">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4510">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4510">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4510">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004511.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004511.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c09855baf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004511.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Torrent + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3C201106040849.08312.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004503.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004493.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Torrent</H1> + <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Torrent&In-Reply-To=%3C201106040849.08312.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Torrent">thomas at btspuhler.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 17:49:07 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004493.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4511">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4511">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4511">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4511">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday, June 04, 2011 03:08:20 am Remco Rijnders wrote: +><i> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:56:32PM +0300, Sander Lepik wrote: +</I>><i> >04.06.2011 12:41, Andres Kaaber kirjutas: +</I>><i> >>I'v reached with both x86_64 and i586 dvd iso ratio 0.4 but it seems +</I>><i> >>that for last 6 hours there is no demand for them. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >Maybe your speed is too low. People are still downloading but max +</I>><i> >connections ain't used anymore. So there are probably enough seeders +</I>><i> >at the moment. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For what it's worth, I am at a ratio of 22+ for both the DVD's now, but +</I>><i> speeds (demand) have indeed slowed down some. I'm doing about 200KB/sec +</I>><i> now which is about 20% of what it was at a few days ago. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I>All I see now is 50kb/s on bot. +The download was 800+kb/s. So there is plenty of seeding capacity. +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004493.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4511">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4511">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4511">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4511">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004512.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004512.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..911c9e65c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004512.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTim9N7W62eQSnA7hUJBxsQn975iGHg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004509.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004514.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTim9N7W62eQSnA7hUJBxsQn975iGHg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 17:57:02 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004509.html">[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4512">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4512">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4512">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4512">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 6/3/11, Gary Montalbine <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gmontalbine at cox.net</A>> wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> I got the firmware from the IVTV site and copied it to /lib/firmware +</I>><i> +</I> + +But that is a band-aid, a kludge, that gives you a cobbled-together +system, not to mention it does not really solve the problem for the +distro and the wider user base. And every time you need to install +Mageia on that hardware, you'll need to apply the kludge again and +again. + +The goal should be to have a distro that 'just works'. Solving the +problem by copying files from outside the repositories may point out a +deficiency in Mageia repos, but not if the solution can be found +within. + +And this brings up a point of having the tainted repos as "opt-in". +This thinking comes from a philosophy of some kind of "pure" Linux +which eschews non-free licensed software.However, some hardware can +only be useful with non-free software and it's unrealistic to pretend +that such hardware does not exist nor that those using such hardware +will have the knowledge and skill to enable the tainted repo. + +I realize that the purists among us have decide to disable the tainted +repos by default, but those same people are the ones most likely to +have selected hardware that does not depend on non-free software and +they are also skilled Linux users. The opt-in approach serves to +advance their political agenda at the expense of having a distro that +'just works' for the average to non-technical user. + +It may be more sense to enable the tainted repos by default and +provide an opt-out screen during the installation: "Repositories +offering access to software that have non-free licenses are enabled by +default. To keep your Mageia system unencumbered by software with +restrictive or non-free licenses, please un-check the box. Certain +hardware may not function without such non-free software and if you +are unsure, leave the box checked." + +That gives users a choice, makes Mageia a 'just works' distro for the +average user and reduces the number of requests for assistance that +can be solved by using non-free software. + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004509.html">[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4512">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4512">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4512">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4512">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004513.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004513.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92a9d0b0b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004513.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installed but keeps login me off + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installed%20but%20keeps%20login%20me%20off&In-Reply-To=%3Cisdn9j%24dpn%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004518.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004519.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installed but keeps login me off</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installed%20but%20keeps%20login%20me%20off&In-Reply-To=%3Cisdn9j%24dpn%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installed but keeps login me off">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 18:42:27 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4513">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4513">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4513">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4513">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I installed Mageia on my 64bit system, but every 3-4 minutes or so, the +logout window appears and gives me 30 seconds of logging out time. I +have to cancel the window to get rid of it, otherwise, if I am not at my +desk, when I return, I have been logged out. + +Any ideas? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4513">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4513">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4513">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4513">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004514.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004514.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6cbfe6a70 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004514.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA6720.8020106%40cox.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004512.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004517.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Gary Montalbine</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA6720.8020106%40cox.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">gmontalbine at cox.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 19:10:56 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4514">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4514">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4514">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4514">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +On 06/04/2011 11:57 AM, Hoyt Duff wrote: +><i> On 6/3/11, Gary Montalbine<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">gmontalbine at cox.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I got the firmware from the IVTV site and copied it to /lib/firmware +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But that is a band-aid, a kludge, that gives you a cobbled-together +</I>><i> system, not to mention it does not really solve the problem for the +</I>><i> distro and the wider user base. And every time you need to install +</I>><i> Mageia on that hardware, you'll need to apply the kludge again and +</I>><i> again. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The goal should be to have a distro that 'just works'. Solving the +</I>><i> problem by copying files from outside the repositories may point out a +</I>><i> deficiency in Mageia repos, but not if the solution can be found +</I>><i> within. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And this brings up a point of having the tainted repos as "opt-in". +</I>><i> This thinking comes from a philosophy of some kind of "pure" Linux +</I>><i> which eschews non-free licensed software.However, some hardware can +</I>><i> only be useful with non-free software and it's unrealistic to pretend +</I>><i> that such hardware does not exist nor that those using such hardware +</I>><i> will have the knowledge and skill to enable the tainted repo. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I realize that the purists among us have decide to disable the tainted +</I>><i> repos by default, but those same people are the ones most likely to +</I>><i> have selected hardware that does not depend on non-free software and +</I>><i> they are also skilled Linux users. The opt-in approach serves to +</I>><i> advance their political agenda at the expense of having a distro that +</I>><i> 'just works' for the average to non-technical user. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It may be more sense to enable the tainted repos by default and +</I>><i> provide an opt-out screen during the installation: "Repositories +</I>><i> offering access to software that have non-free licenses are enabled by +</I>><i> default. To keep your Mageia system unencumbered by software with +</I>><i> restrictive or non-free licenses, please un-check the box. Certain +</I>><i> hardware may not function without such non-free software and if you +</I>><i> are unsure, leave the box checked." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That gives users a choice, makes Mageia a 'just works' distro for the +</I>><i> average user and reduces the number of requests for assistance that +</I>><i> can be solved by using non-free software. +</I>><i> +</I>I had the tainted repos installed since initial installation. The +firmware I needed was not there. At least not according to the software +manager. + +Gary +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4514">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4514">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4514">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4514">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004515.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004515.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1061a487c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004515.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimEWcwrM93wFzF6V-MAsXmseWAcXw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004510.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004521.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Hugo Berus</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimEWcwrM93wFzF6V-MAsXmseWAcXw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">hugo.berus at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 19:27:18 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004510.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4515">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4515">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4515">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4515">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 4 June 2011 17:09, Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Also there is the solution to follow all or part of a forum with rss. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I prefers rss as: +</I>><i> it does nt stress as the email, +</I>><i> i can follow everything, +</I>><i> i can click on the title to see the text if the title interesting me. In forum i have to click on a subject but it takes a lot of time to see the topic in a new page +</I> +Yes indeed, I also like mailing lists for their simplicity and speed. +RSS is good to follow a forum. + +Another suggestion I would like to make is mailing list integration. +An email to the mailing list would also be posted on the forum and a +posting on the forum gets also posted on the mailing list. A +forum/mailing list like described is for example the Nginx forum +<A HREF="http://forum.nginx.org/">http://forum.nginx.org/</A> ,although that one is based on phorum and not +phpbb like Magiea's forum. + +A google search showed two options for mailing list integration with phpbb: +1) m2f (mail2forum) <A HREF="http://mail2forum.com/">http://mail2forum.com/</A> +2) foum-mailing list bridge +<A HREF="http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=2099210&start=15">http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=2099210&start=15</A> + +(disclaimer: I have never set up a phpbb forum or any other forum, so +I have no idea if those modules work. I am just a user.) + +H.B. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004510.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4515">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4515">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4515">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4515">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004516.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004516.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0d4bc207c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004516.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20error%20with%20Release%201%20installer&In-Reply-To=%3C201106041048.46262.luanlx.louie%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004500.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004504.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer</H1> + <B>Louie Pham</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20error%20with%20Release%201%20installer&In-Reply-To=%3C201106041048.46262.luanlx.louie%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer">luanlx.louie at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 19:48:46 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004500.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004504.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4516">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4516">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4516">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4516">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Friday, June 03, 2011 07:32:43 PM Doug Laidlaw wrote: +><i> Trying to upgrade my current Mageia installation from the DVD, I get an +</I>><i> endless loop in the kernel messages, to the effect that USB 1-4 is tried +</I>><i> on various ports in the 43 range and always gives error -71. I couldn't +</I>><i> find a way to save the log. Meanwhile the GUI is showing "proceeding, +</I>><i> please wait..." +</I> +Must be a bad .iso! I just burn two .iso for i586 and x86_64, both install +fine with no problem. I had that happen when I was download the RC version +couple week back. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004500.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004504.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4516">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4516">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4516">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4516">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004517.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004517.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2d63c15ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004517.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA7481.5040109%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004514.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004518.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250</H1> + <B>Lee</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA7481.5040109%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250">lee8oi at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 20:08:01 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4517">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4517">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4517">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4517">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>A common mistake with the package manager is that its usually set to +only search 'packages with gui' be sure to set it to 'all'. + +lee8oi +><i> I had the tainted repos installed since initial installation. The +</I>><i> firmware I needed was not there. At least not according to the +</I>><i> software manager. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gary +</I></PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4517">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4517">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4517">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4517">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004518.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004518.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8556a0a26 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004518.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Hauppauge%20WinTV%20PVR-250&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106042016020.23005%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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In forum i have to click on a subject but it takes a lot of time to see the topic in a new page +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes indeed, I also like mailing lists for their simplicity and speed. +</I>><i> RSS is good to follow a forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another suggestion I would like to make is mailing list integration. +</I>><i> An email to the mailing list would also be posted on the forum and a +</I>><i> posting on the forum gets also posted on the mailing list. A +</I>><i> forum/mailing list like described is for example the Nginx forum +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://forum.nginx.org/">http://forum.nginx.org/</A> ,although that one is based on phorum and not +</I>><i> phpbb like Magiea's forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A google search showed two options for mailing list integration with phpbb: +</I>><i> 1) m2f (mail2forum) <A HREF="http://mail2forum.com/">http://mail2forum.com/</A> +</I>><i> 2) foum-mailing list bridge +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=2099210&start=15">http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=2099210&start=15</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (disclaimer: I have never set up a phpbb forum or any other forum, so +</I>><i> I have no idea if those modules work. I am just a user.) +</I> +There's already a mailinglist2forum bridge in place by a 3rd party: +<A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004515.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004524.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4521">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4521">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4521">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4521">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004522.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004522.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bede9699f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004522.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106042059150.23005%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004520.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004523.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106042059150.23005%40zem.cjw.nep%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 21:27:10 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Covers for mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004523.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4522">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4522">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4522">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4522">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: + +><i> A minor annoyance: in the users config at the end of the install, there are +</I>><i> only two user icons to choose from; the Mdv user icons, with various skin and +</I>><i> hair colours were much appreciated by the four users who work on this box. +</I> +But maybe not penguins again? IMHO magical creatures like unicorns or +dragons don't look as friendly, though (: + +><i> A worse annoyance: under Mdv I could click right and left simultaneously to +</I>><i> emulate centre centre click and paste; this does not work in Mageia. +</I> +This is an Xorg evdev driver option, see man evdev (Emulate3Buttons). I +thought it could be configured with drakxtools but can't find it now. + +><i>From the documentation, the solution appears to be to create a file in +</I>/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with contents: + +Section "InputClass" + Identifier "mice" + MatchIsPointer "True" + Option "Emulate3Buttons" "True" +EndSection + +but I have not tested this so it may not work. My mouse has 3 real buttons +so I don't need this feature (: + +><i> The Printer install in MCC does not "see" my USB-connected HP all-in-one, I +</I>><i> have to configure it with hp-setup. +</I> +We need a printerdrake maintainer to look at such problems. + +><i> A number of packages that I need (or like) have been dropped: Skype, Qcad, +</I>><i> Gweled and Gxmessage to cite but a few; is it safe to install the Mdv2010.2 +</I>><i> rpms ? +</I> +Basically, yes. You may run into dependency problems but if you manage to +install such missing packages from mdv 2010.1/2010.2 without depedency +issues it's safe. Qt3 is available so you should be able to use the mageia +package for that. If no 'new package' requests for these packages are in +bugzilla you should create them. + + + Christiaan +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Covers for mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004523.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4522">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4522">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4522">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4522">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004523.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004523.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f73e2b5a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004523.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DBsFqr2GfhV%3DRPukzrxOfD3KiAew%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004522.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004525.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3DBsFqr2GfhV%3DRPukzrxOfD3KiAew%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 21:34:45 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4523">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4523">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4523">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4523">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/4 Christiaan Welvaart <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>>><i> The Printer install in MCC does not "see" my USB-connected HP all-in-one, +</I>>><i> I have to configure it with hp-setup. +</I> +><i> We need a printerdrake maintainer to look at such problems. +</I> +printerdrake is used no more, not even in Mandriva 2010.x. It's +system-config-printer. + +Unplug your printer and plug it in again while the system is running +and the printer is switched on. This should cause installation of the +missing packages - worked with my HP all-in-one. +See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1454">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1454</A> + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4523">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4523">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4523">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4523">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004524.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004524.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..637ccdf22 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004524.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cise2cl%244ah%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004521.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004527.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cise2cl%244ah%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 21:51:49 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4524">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4524">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4524">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4524">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-04 15:27, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2011/6/4 Hugo Berus<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> On 4 June 2011 17:09, Dimitrios Glentadakis<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> Also there is the solution to follow all or part of a forum with rss. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I prefers rss as: +</I>>>><i> it does nt stress as the email, +</I>>>><i> i can follow everything, +</I>>>><i> i can click on the title to see the text if the title interesting me. In forum i have to click on a subject but it takes a lot of time to see the topic in a new page +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes indeed, I also like mailing lists for their simplicity and speed. +</I>>><i> RSS is good to follow a forum. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Another suggestion I would like to make is mailing list integration. +</I>>><i> An email to the mailing list would also be posted on the forum and a +</I>>><i> posting on the forum gets also posted on the mailing list. A +</I>>><i> forum/mailing list like described is for example the Nginx forum +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://forum.nginx.org/">http://forum.nginx.org/</A> ,although that one is based on phorum and not +</I>>><i> phpbb like Magiea's forum. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A google search showed two options for mailing list integration with phpbb: +</I>>><i> 1) m2f (mail2forum) <A HREF="http://mail2forum.com/">http://mail2forum.com/</A> +</I>>><i> 2) foum-mailing list bridge +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=2099210&start=15">http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=2099210&start=15</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> (disclaimer: I have never set up a phpbb forum or any other forum, so +</I>>><i> I have no idea if those modules work. I am just a user.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There's already a mailinglist2forum bridge in place by a 3rd party: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +For comparison's sake, the LibreOffice mailists[1] all operate this way, +the mailists are bridged to GMane, forums (Nabble Gateway) this offers +great flexibility with our different teams. IRC is available as well. I +have to say that by covering all communication bases this way, the +LibreOffice teams have been able to make great headway in the very few +months of its existence. I am very impressed at how few complaints there +have been of the communication process just by having covered all of +these forms right from the very start. + +Taking a look at this setup may be of interest. + +Marc +LibreOffice marketing team member + +[1] <A HREF="http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/">http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/</A> + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4524">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4524">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4524">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4524">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004525.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004525.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a71e3ad91 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004525.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA8E3E.6030006%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004523.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA8E3E.6030006%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 21:57:50 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004523.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4525">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4525">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4525">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4525">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 04/06/2011 21:27, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit : +><i> On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> A minor annoyance: in the users config at the end of the install, +</I>>><i> there are +</I>>><i> only two user icons to choose from; the Mdv user icons, with various +</I>>><i> skin and +</I>>><i> hair colours were much appreciated by the four users who work on this +</I>>><i> box. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But maybe not penguins again? IMHO magical creatures like unicorns or +</I>><i> dragons don't look as friendly, though (: +</I> +<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=53718">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=53718</A> + +Just an idea... +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004523.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4525">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4525">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4525">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4525">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004526.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004526.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e5eee722a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004526.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA8F17.4050106%40marcpare.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004519.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004528.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3C4DEA8F17.4050106%40marcpare.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 22:01:27 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4526">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4526">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4526">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4526">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-04 14:36, José Alberto Valle Cid a écrit : +><i> MIB have a rpm for mandriva , i think coul more easy rebuild it for mageia +</I>><i> +</I>Here is the link to the MIB Skype .rpm. I installed in on my Mageia box +and it works. + +<A HREF="ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/sourceforge/m/project/ma/malcer/S/skype-2.1.0.81-69.1mib2010.0.x86_64.rpm">ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/sourceforge/m/project/ma/malcer/S/skype-2.1.0.81-69.1mib2010.0.x86_64.rpm</A> + +Cheers + +Marc + +-- +Marc Paré +<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A> + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4526">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4526">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4526">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4526">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004527.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004527.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cd20989d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004527.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTin%2BZ__fi1Tt5h6jy7mh5T8g3kMdeg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004524.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004529.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTin%2BZ__fi1Tt5h6jy7mh5T8g3kMdeg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 22:27:56 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004524.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4527">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4527">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4527">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4527">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>There are many examples on the web which cover all options + - only forums + - only mailing lists (although I haven't seen a distribution for +average users without a user forum) + - both without bridge + - both with bridge + +I have handled my mailing lists and usenet groups with mutt and +(later) Emacs/Gnus; I have been administrating a forum myself and I'm +member of some large and not so large forums, technical and +non-techie. All this for quite some years. This said I think I know +what I'm talking about: + +If you know how to work in a forum and in mailing lists, there is only +one difference between a forum and a mailing list: + + - a forum is a graphical communication platform while the mailing +lists are not. Period. + +So, the mailing list has but one advantage over a forum: it is easier +to handle than a forum when you are on a system without graphical +environment. The rest is nothing but individual taste, individual +workflow, individual habits. Knowing both sides of the coin I haven't +yet read any real argument in favor of one side. + +But back to the initial topic: + +The issue here is the request to have another list which covers +exactly what the forums are made for. Is this really necessary and - +the main question - would this list have a chance to be living along a +forum? Mind that a users support list would NOT be the same as this +list here, you can't judge what would happen in a user support list by +looking who is posting here in this list! + +'nuff said + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004524.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4527">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4527">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4527">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4527">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004528.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004528.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9fdf35e56 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004528.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikDq99E%3DA09CB_wUZQd_0kQBfMpBA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004526.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004520.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Thoughts%20on%20an%20install&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikDq99E%3DA09CB_wUZQd_0kQBfMpBA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 22:35:55 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Covers for mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4528">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4528">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4528">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4528">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/6/4 Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>>: +><i> Le 2011-06-04 14:36, José Alberto Valle Cid a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> MIB have a rpm for mandriva , i think coul more easy rebuild it for mageia +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Here is the link to the MIB Skype .rpm. I installed in on my Mageia box and +</I>><i> it works. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/sourceforge/m/project/ma/malcer/S/skype-2.1.0.81-69.1mib2010.0.x86_64.rpm">ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/sourceforge/m/project/ma/malcer/S/skype-2.1.0.81-69.1mib2010.0.x86_64.rpm</A> +</I> +Well, last time I checked and asked Skype.com if we (mandrivauser.de) +could distribute a Skype rpm in one of our editions (MUD Netbook +Edition) my request was rejected by Skype. To the best of my knowledge +MIB did not bother to ask Skype. + +That was last year. If both these informations are obsolete now, pls +forget what I wrote. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Covers for mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4528">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4528">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4528">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4528">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004529.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004529.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5cd9a23b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/004529.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cise6us%24qb1%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004527.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004496.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20User%20support%20mailing%20list%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cise6us%24qb1%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 4 23:09:47 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004496.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4529">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4529">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4529">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4529">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-06-04 16:27, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> There are many examples on the web which cover all options +</I>><i> - only forums +</I>><i> - only mailing lists (although I haven't seen a distribution for +</I>><i> average users without a user forum) +</I>><i> - both without bridge +</I>><i> - both with bridge +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have handled my mailing lists and usenet groups with mutt and +</I>><i> (later) Emacs/Gnus; I have been administrating a forum myself and I'm +</I>><i> member of some large and not so large forums, technical and +</I>><i> non-techie. All this for quite some years. This said I think I know +</I>><i> what I'm talking about: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you know how to work in a forum and in mailing lists, there is only +</I>><i> one difference between a forum and a mailing list: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - a forum is a graphical communication platform while the mailing +</I>><i> lists are not. Period. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, the mailing list has but one advantage over a forum: it is easier +</I>><i> to handle than a forum when you are on a system without graphical +</I>><i> environment. The rest is nothing but individual taste, individual +</I>><i> workflow, individual habits. Knowing both sides of the coin I haven't +</I>><i> yet read any real argument in favor of one side. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But back to the initial topic: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The issue here is the request to have another list which covers +</I>><i> exactly what the forums are made for. Is this really necessary and - +</I>><i> the main question - would this list have a chance to be living along a +</I>><i> forum? Mind that a users support list would NOT be the same as this +</I>><i> list here, you can't judge what would happen in a user support list by +</I>><i> looking who is posting here in this list! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 'nuff said +</I>><i> +</I> +I obviously came in on the conversation at a really bad time. My +apologies if my post upset you. + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004496.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4529">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4529">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4529">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4529">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fa3951ec7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,242 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 4 June 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>4 June 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Jun 4 01:11:39 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Jun 4 23:09:47 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 39<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004515.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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+</A><A NAME="4515"> </A> +<I>Hugo Berus +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004516.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A><A NAME="4516"> </A> +<I>Louie Pham +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4517"> </A> +<I>Lee +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4518"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4519"> </A> +<I>José Alberto Valle Cid +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Covers for mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4520"> </A> +<I>José Alberto Valle Cid +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4521"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4522"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004523.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4523"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004524.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? 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+</A><A NAME="4493"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004494.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4494"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004495.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4495"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004497.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4497"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004498.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4498"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004499.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4499"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004505.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4505"> </A> +<I>doug +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004507.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4507"> </A> +<I>doug +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004506.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4506"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004508.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4508"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004510.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4510"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004515.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4515"> </A> +<I>Hugo Berus +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4521"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004524.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4524"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4527"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4529"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Jun 4 23:09:47 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Jun 4 23:10:04 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..589e09cc6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110604/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,311 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 4 June 2011 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>4 June 2011 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Jun 4 01:11:39 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Jun 4 23:09:47 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 39<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01307142699- --> +<LI><A HREF="004491.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A><A NAME="4491"> </A> +<I>Chopin Sébastien +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307142699-01307145846- --> +<LI><A HREF="004492.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A><A NAME="4492"> </A> +<I>Steven Hess +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307142699-01307145846-01307180515- --> +<LI><A HREF="004501.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A><A NAME="4501"> </A> +<I>Andres Kaaber +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307142699-01307145846-01307180515-01307181392- --> +<LI><A HREF="004502.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A><A NAME="4502"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<!--3 01307142699-01307145846-01307180515-01307181392-01307182100- --> +<LI><A HREF="004503.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A><A NAME="4503"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<!--3 01307142699-01307145846-01307180515-01307181392-01307182100-01307202547- --> +<LI><A HREF="004511.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent +</A><A NAME="4511"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307146036- --> +<LI><A HREF="004493.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4493"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307146036-01307151342- --> +<LI><A HREF="004494.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4494"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307146036-01307151342-01307155348- --> +<LI><A HREF="004497.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4497"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<!--2 01307146036-01307151342-01307155560- --> +<LI><A HREF="004498.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4498"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307154303- --> +<LI><A HREF="004495.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4495"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307154303-01307160739- --> +<LI><A HREF="004499.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4499"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307154303-01307160739-01307185820- --> +<LI><A HREF="004507.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4507"> </A> +<I>doug +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185820-01307186631- --> +<LI><A HREF="004508.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4508"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888- --> +<LI><A HREF="004506.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4506"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888-01307200184- --> +<LI><A HREF="004510.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4510"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888-01307200184-01307208438- --> +<LI><A HREF="004515.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4515"> </A> +<I>Hugo Berus +</I> + +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888-01307200184-01307208438-01307215622- --> +<LI><A HREF="004521.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4521"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888-01307200184-01307208438-01307215622-01307217109- --> +<LI><A HREF="004524.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4524"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888-01307200184-01307208438-01307215622-01307217109-01307219276- --> +<LI><A HREF="004527.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4527"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01307154303-01307160739-01307185888-01307200184-01307208438-01307215622-01307217109-01307219276-01307221787- --> +<LI><A HREF="004529.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4529"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307154763- --> +<LI><A HREF="004496.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A><A NAME="4496"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307154763-01307175926- --> +<LI><A HREF="004500.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A><A NAME="4500"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--1 01307154763-01307209726- --> +<LI><A HREF="004516.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A><A NAME="4516"> </A> +<I>Louie Pham +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01307182650- --> +<LI><A HREF="004504.html">[Mageia-discuss] error with Release 1 installer +</A><A NAME="4504"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<!--0 01307184611- --> +<LI><A HREF="004505.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list? +</A><A NAME="4505"> </A> +<I>doug +</I> + +<!--0 01307187466- --> +<LI><A HREF="004509.html">[Mageia-discuss] Asking for openmotif packages. +</A><A NAME="4509"> </A> +<I>Xuo +</I> + +<!--0 01307203022- --> +<LI><A HREF="004512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4512"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307203022-01307207456- --> +<LI><A HREF="004514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4514"> </A> +<I>Gary Montalbine +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307203022-01307207456-01307210881- --> +<LI><A HREF="004517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4517"> </A> +<I>Lee +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01307203022-01307211477- --> +<LI><A HREF="004518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A><A NAME="4518"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01307205747- --> +<LI><A HREF="004513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installed but keeps login me off +</A><A NAME="4513"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--0 01307212614- --> +<LI><A HREF="004519.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4519"> </A> +<I>José Alberto Valle Cid +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307212614-01307217687- --> +<LI><A HREF="004526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4526"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01307212614-01307217687-01307219755- --> +<LI><A HREF="004528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4528"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01307214375- --> +<LI><A HREF="004520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Covers for mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4520"> </A> +<I>José Alberto Valle Cid +</I> + +<!--0 01307215630- --> +<LI><A HREF="004522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4522"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01307215630-01307216085- --> +<LI><A HREF="004523.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4523"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--1 01307215630-01307217470- --> +<LI><A HREF="004525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install +</A><A NAME="4525"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Jun 4 23:09:47 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Jun 4 23:10:04 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |