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quot; CONTENT="index,nofollow"> <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003159.html"> <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003167.html"> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news</H1> <B>Leandro Dorileo</B> <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20is%20switching%20to%20rpm5%2C%20and%20other%20news&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimEUsm-XpndTXNTQ005qNm6t90_4M3HNQ9-hZOz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news">ldorileo at gmail.com </A><BR> <I>Fri Dec 3 16:44:03 CET 2010</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003159.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#3166">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#3166">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#3166">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#3166">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Daniel Kreuter &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote: &gt;<i> On 12/03/2010 10:21 AM, andre999 wrote: </I>&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit : </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 02 december 2010 23:09:14 schreef Morgan Leijstr&#246;m: </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ADDING to what i just wrote: </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A week or so old news but I saw it now... </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5</A>&gt; </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011">http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011</A>&gt; </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71">http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71</A>&gt; </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Citing proyvind from last link: </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;...I think we will end up being able to be the awesome alternative in </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the forked world, hoping for interest of other distros, actively </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> inviting their participation and offering to help merge,...&quot; </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - i forgot to paste the best part: </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;I&#8217;m curious about what stance Mageia will take on this though, I&#8217;m </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> certainly hoping they will adopt our work and allow for us to help them </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and contribute back and forth, if not I fear they&#8217;ll miss out on several </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> changes in just perl-URPM done recently during rpm5 rewrite, and even </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so those planned when rpm5 upgrade situtation settles..&quot; </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are also other goodies in the middle link i hope we can coopreate </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with them on. </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> well, i'm not adverse to cooperation, but RPM5 is in my opinion FAR too </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unstable to be used for use on our first release. </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would say, let mandriva find the bugs first and let it give rpm5 a </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> testrun </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with their users; by the time we hit our second release, we will have a </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sure stable version of it. </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've been following RPM5 (and the associated urpm4) on cooker for a while </I>&gt;&gt;<i> now ... </I>&gt;&gt;<i> All 3 stories come from the person integrating rpm5 into Mandriva - he was </I>&gt;&gt;<i> recently hired to do just that, with full support of management. </I>&gt;&gt;<i> To me it looks like rpm5 itself won't be the big problem - rather changing </I>&gt;&gt;<i> the urpmi tools and adapting the build system to work with it. </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not sure which way Mageia should go at first, but the newer versions of </I>&gt;&gt;<i> their tools will be based on rpm5. </I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was interesting how cooker wasn't warned of the changes - suddenly many </I>&gt;&gt;<i> developers were left unable to do any anything, until Per fixed the bugs he </I>&gt;&gt;<i> created. &#160;And then they learned about the planned switch. </I>&gt;&gt;<i> A perfect example of how NOT to do things :) </I>&gt;&gt;<i> </I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is good that Per is open to cooperation - his experiences will be a big </I>&gt;&gt;<i> asset when we do follow suit - which I expect we will, sooner or later. </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten, have you taken a close look at it ? </I>&gt;<i> </I>&gt;<i> At the start we should use RPM4 because it is proven to be stable. </I>&gt;<i> </I>&gt;<i> Let's wait until RPM5 will be stable in Mandriva and after that we can move </I>&gt;<i> to RPM5 </I>&gt;<i> </I> I do agree and Mageia has already a release roadmap to follow and I believe there`s no time left for a rpm5 turn. -- Leandro Dorileo </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003159.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003167.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#3166">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#3166">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#3166">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#3166">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss mailing list</a><br> </body></html>