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<PRE>Le 06/01/2011 14:27, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:19, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 &#224; 12:09 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What do peers have that non-peers do not?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How are access to $VCS will be handled ?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The possibility of having access to server to either read logs or run
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some limited commands was also asked, how would it articulate with this
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> scheme ?
</I>&gt;<i> I had written a &#167; about it but thought it was too early here. Anyway,
</I>&gt;<i> here are my thoughts:
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>  * VCSes:
</I>&gt;<i>    - read access for everyone (peers &amp; non-peers);
</I>&gt;<i>    - write access for:
</I>&gt;<i>      - webmasters (specific role, see below)
</I>&gt;<i>      - app manager, who should in turn be able to provide a write
</I>&gt;<i> access to other peers (developers), on demand? if that's possible
</I>&gt;<i>      - or for all peers, with each developer/app manager having a
</I>&gt;<i> careful look at what happens.
</I>Indeed integration and merging need to be controlled by a restricted number of people

but we could also provide branches or repos with write access to developpers (subversions sub-repos are perfect for that unless we decide to use things like git or mercurial)

but if i'm not mitaken there is nothing available offering such a fine grained access control :-/

&gt;<i>      - or maybe it can be app-specific (depending on the app-criticity)
</I>&gt;<i>      - of course, something making push/merge requests possible could
</I>&gt;<i> help (writable only by manager+webmasters, leaving everyone else push
</I>&gt;<i> changes to be merged after review)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>Have we designed the standard lifecycles for patches and the standard merge/qualification processes ?
&gt;<i>  * server logs:
</I>&gt;<i>    - read access to webmasters
</I>&gt;<i>    - some limited commands? what type? rsync/svn/git types?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>for example : forums we'll be deploying forums versions with git
&gt;<i>  * server deployment:
</I>&gt;<i>    - staging from a branch available to all peers
</I>??
&gt;<i>    - production push from staging available to webmasters only
</I>ok
&gt;<i> Webmasters are necessarily peers; they do master the whole websites,
</I>&gt;<i> deploy into production with the assistance of app developers (in
</I>&gt;<i> short, with sysadm, they are the ones having the production-push
</I>&gt;<i> button and the ability to check on logs). Of course, this requires
</I>&gt;<i> webmasters &amp; sysadm to go along well.
</I>yup
&gt;<i>  So sysadm would have at least a
</I>&gt;<i> consultative say on who can become a webmaster.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>agreed
&gt;<i> At this time, this role is managed by (non-sysadm people): me and
</I>&gt;<i> damsweb for blog/www (editorial stuff), I believe all the rest is
</I>&gt;<i> pushed by sysadm at this time.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Advice?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Romain
</I>OK with the schema but i wonder how we'll manage ACL part without pain :-/

Ma&#226;t



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