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<H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Migration of the forums</H1>
<B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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<I>Thu Sep 20 13:03:30 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>2012/9/20 nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>>:
><i> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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</I>>><i> 2012/9/19 nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>>:
</I>>><i> > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> >>
</I>>><i> >> If we have
</I>>><i> >> - a technical forum admin (with or without helpers) who prepares code
</I>>><i> >> changes and talks to a dedicated sysadmin
</I>>><i> >> - a dedicated sysadmin who implements the prepared changes within a
</I>>><i> >> reasonable time span
</I>>><i> >> everything is ok.
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > This is what we were supposed to do now, but it seems it doesn't work.
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</I>>><i> Ah, I did not know that. Would it not be better to find out why this
</I>>><i> does not work and try to fix that?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Each discussion quickly move to personal attacks and fights to point out
</I>><i> who is responsible for all the problems, and I'm really tired of those
</I>><i> discussions and bad atmosphere, and I think we've wasted enough time
</I>><i> with this since the begining of the project. So if it's imposible to
</I>><i> discuss, I think the best solution is to move forums setup outside
</I>><i> sysadmin team, so that there is no need to discuss anymore.
</I>
Yes, this issue has a history of wrong behavior and misunderstandings,
I am a part of it as everybody else. Unfortunately it is also a
history of individual responsibility, not a system error. But since
when is this a reason to forget about a good solution at all? Moreso
if the proposed second choice is a very bad choice?
A forum is the main communication platform between makers and users -
even if you don't like forums. Each and every large popular project I
have visited during the last 10 years has a forum on their website.
Surely users will find a forum outside of the Mageia web family, but
what an impression will give that to them, regarding Mageia as a
project which relies on the cooperation and contribution of the users?
IMHO an "outsourcing" of the forum is a no-go. And I'm still not
convinced that the simple sysadmin<->forum sysadmin scheme is not
possible.
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wobo
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