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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?</H1>
    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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    <I>Sat Mar 31 18:16:22 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Op zaterdag 31 maart 2012 15:12:18 schreef Michael Scherer:
&gt;<i> Le samedi 31 mars 2012 &#224; 12:51 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Michael Scherer wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; For the record, I see that 212.85.158.145 ( alamut default gateway,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; whose reverse is gateway-mageia.ielo.net ) is not answering to ping and
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; on the other hand, the default gateway for zarb.org ( 212.85.158.1 )
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; answer to ping.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; And I am pretty sure that this gateway is after our switch from a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; network point of view, and so that this should answer fine if our
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; switch is unplugged.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So I suppose that this device ( 158.45 ) do send network
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; topology/routing with OSPF or RIP etc, and for some reason, it no
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; longer announce the route for our network.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It could be caused by our switch being broken, but that would be rather
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; strange, as I do not know any network equipment that would act like
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this ( doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, but usually, network is not
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that smart ).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; According to gradator, this is normal if the switch is down. When the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; port is down, OSPF automatically clear the route.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> But what about the default gateway ? IIRC, that's not our switch ( as
</I>&gt;<i> this is just a layer 2 switch ), so did it disappear on purpose once the
</I>&gt;<i> network disappeared too ?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So what did IELO said exactly ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The port where our switch is connected is down.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But even if the swich is not the problem, it would be a good idea to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; replace it for a bigger one, to allow us to connect the arm boards on
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it (instead of connecting them behind valstar). We also need to replace
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one of the disk on the arm boards which seems to be not working.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Connecting them behind valstar was also to protect them until we
</I>&gt;<i> properly secured them, since the password is still weak and easy to
</I>&gt;<i> attack from bruteforce. And AFAIK, we didn't plan to give direct access
</I>&gt;<i> to people, so that was useless and I think moving to a bastion model for
</I>&gt;<i> ssh access would be a improvement in term of security for others
</I>&gt;<i> builders too ( jonund, ecosse, and maybe fiona, depending how the backup
</I>&gt;<i> are done ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Also, just replacing the switch is not a improvement, since we will have
</I>&gt;<i> the same issue if this switch break ( unlikely, but so was the current
</I>&gt;<i> breakage, or the various hardware issues we faced each time we got there
</I>&gt;<i> ) so what about trying to have a more redundant setup ?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Most, if not all, of our servers have 2 ethernet interface, so we could
</I>&gt;<i> try to see if bonding could help ( in case of ethernet card failure ) or
</I>&gt;<i> see if we can find a setup with 2 switchs ( one that doesn't cost too
</I>&gt;<i> much, cause of course, cisco can solve the issue for us, we just cannot
</I>&gt;<i> afford it ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Can we afford one or two switchs that support it ? ( I lost the name of
</I>&gt;<i> the current flavor du jour in term of bonding )
</I>
i think you're looking for distributed trunking? ie: having 2 cables in two 
separate switches, so if a switch fails, it stays working...

but those switches are quite expensive, iinm at least 2kEUR/switch

non-distributed trunking is alot cheaper, but that just means half the servers 
are down.

or we could just not bond and have 2 different networks over such servers. that 
also works for redundancy, but on l3 instead of l2 and alot cheaper...
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