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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [forums-discuss] Re: updating sysadmin privileges in forum config</H1>
    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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    <I>Sun Mar 25 17:49:27 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>2012/3/25 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
&gt;<i> Op zondag 25 maart 2012 08:24:31 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/24 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I do agree with misc that software used by mageia shouldn't be different from
</I>&gt;<i> what we package.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I also agree that having nice plugins is alot better than patching code, this
</I>&gt;<i> makes for a nice and stable and tested upgrade path.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> i'm not against phpBB or php in general, i kinda like php, it has it's good
</I>&gt;<i> points.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> but nothing prevents people to implement a proper and documented API, in any
</I>&gt;<i> reasonable language.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> take for example squirrelmail. it has alot of plugins and they don't require
</I>&gt;<i> patching (except, some do, and that goes to show that the API could have been
</I>&gt;<i> better)
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> another example is drupal, etc...
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> of course, i can understand it if no sysadmin wants to keep a patched software
</I>&gt;<i> up2date where mageia doesn't have a package...
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> if there had been a package, a packager could have been doing upgrades instead
</I>&gt;<i> of only a sysadmin. and a sysadmin would've happily done the upgrade of a
</I>&gt;<i> well-tested application.
</I>
But there were no Mageia packages available nor were they installed. I
don't know why this was not discussed before forums were implemented
(or was it?) but that's not the issue now. As I understand the current
situation there are only 2 options:
 - pack a package, remove the installed system and install the package
(including language packages) and transfer the databases or
 - go on with the current system and find a better workflow to react
to upstream updates and customizing requests.

-- 
wobo
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