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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Pkg removal request</H1>
    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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    <I>Fri Jun  8 12:49:50 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, 08 Jun 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:

&gt;<i> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/6/7 Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 07.06.2012 22:36, Jani V&#228;limaa kirjutas:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 06.06.2012 18:11, nicolas vigier wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 30 May 2012, Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; as I get some negative feedback by dropping pkgs with task-obsolete
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; previously, I decided to step back to old behaviour..
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Could someone please remove the following obsoleted pkgs from repos:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mousepad
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; xfprint
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lib{,64}xfprint-devel
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lib{,64}xfprint0
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What is the reason for removing them ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If it is software that we want to remove from the distribution, then it
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; should be obsoleted by task-obsolete.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Both seems to be dead in upstream. Other distros are also removed or
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; removing them from their repos.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Well, I guess I'll add them then to task-obsolete and won't care if
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; someone rants about obsoleting libs and/or preventing users installing
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; pkgs from their own sources..
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; xfprint should be obsoleted. Not libs, libs should be removed by sysadmins, so users who
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; have them can still keep them.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; IMHO same applies for other pkgs too, we shouldn't force removal of
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pkg unless there is some other pkg which replaces the first one.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Well there are some other cases
</I>&gt;<i> - Package contains a security problem which will never get fixed
</I>&gt;<i> - App has no way to ever work on future versions of the distro (due to
</I>&gt;<i> being dependant on obsolete stuff)
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I think these are the case when task-obsolete is useful
</I>
All software that we remove from the distribution may have security
problems in the future that won't get fixed. So I think we should
obsolete them. People who want to continue using them can still add
task-obsolete to /etc/urpmi/skip.list.


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