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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [814] - add a module to generate gnupg key ( similar to the one for openssl</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le lundi 17 janvier 2011 &#224; 16:35 +0000, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 16:23, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le lundi 17 janvier 2011 &#224; 16:24 +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Revision: 814
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Author:   misc
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Date:     2011-01-17 16:24:10 +0100 (Mon, 17 Jan 2011)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Log Message:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; -----------
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - add a module to generate gnupg key ( similar to the one for openssl
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;   certs )
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok so now we have the command to generate key, I propose to ... generate
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a key ( we can also party, if we prefer ).
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Or both
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Yeah \o/

First drink, then commit ?

&gt;<i> &gt; According to <A HREF="http://www.awe.com/mark/blog/200701300906.html">http://www.awe.com/mark/blog/200701300906.html</A> , RH use a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; master key that sign the release keys. So doing like this would allow us
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to ask for signing the master key, we can renew it when needed, and we
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use it to sign the release key. ( RH also have a HSM for that :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://iss.thalesgroup.com/en/Products/Hardware%20Security%">http://iss.thalesgroup.com/en/Products/Hardware%20Security%</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 20Modules/nShield%20Solo.aspx , but there is no price tag. If someone by
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; chance know some Thales insider, it would be interesting to have more
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; information ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Ah that's close to what I was suggesting :)
</I>&gt;<i> Storing it on something like <A HREF="https://store.ironkey.com/personal">https://store.ironkey.com/personal</A> would
</I>&gt;<i> make sense (hardware encryption, if you try n times (5 or 10 I think)
</I>&gt;<i> to unlock with wrong passphrase data is destroyed by the hardware)
</I>
That doesn't fight against the same threat.

The rh solution prevent theft of the key. This one prevent bruteforce of
the key. 

But that could be a part of the solution. We put the master key on that,
we send it to the president, we store a backup protected by a shamir
secret sharing ( <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir</A>'s_Secret_Sharing ),
given to various people ( like to the 9 admins, with a threshold of 4 or
5 ), so if the president lose the password (*khof*) and destroy the key,
we can still get it.

I guess we should list the threat we will be facing before deciding on a
definite scheme.

-- 
Michael Scherer

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