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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Saving and sharing passwords in mageia teams</H1>
    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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<PRE>On Sat, 19 Feb 2011, Buchan Milne wrote:

&gt;<i> On Friday, 18 February 2011 23:45:02 nicolas vigier wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We often need to register some accounts on various websites for the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia project (domain name registration, twitter, identica, etc ...).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And we need to be able to share the account informations (login and
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; password) with other people inside teams. So we need something like a
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; password database, with permissions to restrict access to only some
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people or groups of people. We can store this database on Mageia servers,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but I think it should be encrypted, so that root access on the server
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; does not give access to the passwords.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> This is not an uncommon requirement, in my work environment we need to be able 
</I>&gt;<i> to share the local root passwords (e.g. in case a system administrator needs 
</I>&gt;<i> to be able to restore something that prevents user logins from working).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> However, in work environments, access to privileged passwords may need to be 
</I>&gt;<i> auditable.
</I>
This tool could probably be used also outside Mageia.

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have looked at existing tools, but didn't find one that would allow
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; us to do this easily. So I'm thinking about writting some scripts to do
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it. It would work like this :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - all users first need to upload their gnupg public key in ldap
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I was already considering the requirement for GPG public keys in LDAP for 
</I>&gt;<i> 'privileged user password recovery'. E.g., use the same process as 
</I>&gt;<i> unprivileged users, but encrypt the key sent to the user with their gpg public 
</I>&gt;<i> key (providing a second level of authentication - if we consider access to the 
</I>&gt;<i> mailbox one level).
</I>
Good idea !

&gt;<i> I believe there may also an LDAP-based keyserver, which could provide even 
</I>&gt;<i> more re-use.
</I>
A keyserver using LDAP would be nice. If not too difficult to setup.

&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - we have a command to create a password on the server, with a list
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;    of groups/users who can access this password :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     $ mgapassword create passwdname %group1 %group2 user1 user2 ...
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Should we leverage existing (e.g. LDAP) groups?
</I>
Yes, I think we should use ldap groups.

&gt;<i> &gt;  - a command to save the value of a password :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     $ mgapassword set passwdname &lt; value
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;       or
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     $ mgapassword edit passwdname
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - an other command to retrieve a password :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     $ mgapassword get passwdname
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - a command to list the passwords you can access :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     $ mgapassword list
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; All commands connect to the server using ssh and the ldap account. When
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; saving a password, the client ask to the server the list of gpg keys of
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; all users who should have access to the password, then encrypt the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; password with all keys and send it encrypted to the server.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Where are the passwords stored?
</I>
Stored on the server in encrypted files. Maybe in a database.

&gt;<i> &gt; The command to retrieve a password connect to the server, then the server
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sends the password encrypted for the key of the user, which is decrypted
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; locally using the private gpg key of the user.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When new users are added into a group, they cannot access passwords
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; immediatly (as it is not encrypted for their keys), so someone needs to
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; retrieve and save the passwords, to encrypt them for the new users.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> This general approach was what I was considering for our work environment.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, what do you think about this ? Or maybe someone knows existing tools
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that can do this ?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I have not seen any I liked.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Our work environment has a basic inventory database (the primary use was to 
</I>&gt;<i> generate kickstart files), the web front end is in ... Catalyst (and possibly 
</I>&gt;<i> try and implement a more complete CMDB). My plan was to integrate the CatDap 
</I>&gt;<i> features into this (using CatalystX::Features maybe). Adding a shared password 
</I>&gt;<i> module that could be tied into CatDap and our work webapp would also be 
</I>&gt;<i> interesting to me.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> But, for now, a command-line tool would be adequate.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I will look at the LDAP side (schema, ACLs, suoport for adding GPG public key 
</I>&gt;<i> from CatDap) over the weekend.
</I>
Thanks.

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